Problem with knitting stitch book

No all rows shouold have the same nimber unless it is a triangular shape ,, the stiches before and after that * ---* are steady ones . mirjam

I've only just stumbled on Pam's question, and was thinking, oh geeeeez, I wish I had'n't've taken meds half an hour ago, because, while I knew the answer, I couldn't get my mind around it enough to type it,,,, then I saw Eimear's response, which is the best of them! JM2cents, Noreen going to bed, achoooo! cough, phlem, etc.

Yes, but the k3 at the end is included in the k6. Add up the bolded figures, and they will add to 17, including the k6.

Higs, Katherine

Eggzackerly!

Higs, Katherine

Oh, I see... I didn't realize the K3 on the end was part of the K6 of the last repeat. I've not read patterns correctly before... but just once or twice. ;)

sue

Yes I know. She was talking about this pattern, then went back to talking about the previous one with the 17 st multiple pattern which had K3 at the beginning and end of the row.

But I realize I read that wrong and the K3 at the end is part of the K6 on the last repeat.

sue

Yep, I saw that from the other answers. What the heck, it was late last night when I posted and I was very tired.

sue

Pam, Let's break down the pattern repeats so you can see exactly what is going on, K3, pm (place marker) *K2tog, K3, yo, K1, yo, K3, sl1, K1, psso, K6*, pm. Repeat across the stitches placing a marker after each K6. Now count the stitches on your needle between each marker. It should be 17. In lace knitting/knitted lace there will be a corresponding decrease for each increase in the pattern repeat. When you are working the pattern repeat, visualize what you are actually doing for that row. K2tog, is taking away one stitch, YO is adding a stitch. Let's read the instructions this way. * Take away one stitch, K3, make a stitch, K1, make a stitch, K3, take away one stitch, K 6. When you work back across the next row ( 1 or 6 of your pattern) slip the markers as you work. Once again count the stitches (17) between the markers. The K 3 at the end of each row is a border, not really part of the pattern repeat at all. Now lets make the pattern wider. The K3 at the beginning/end of each row does not exist for right now. The lace pattern will work on 17, 34, 51, 68 sts, etc. Cast on 74 sts, K3 ( now we add the K3 back in for the border) , pm, work your pattern across placing a marker after each repeat to the last 3 stitches, K3 When I was learning to knit lace, I charted everything, making the pattern repeats a different color. This gives you a "picture" of what the finished lace will look like, and a better understand of how increasing and decreasing stitches works. At least it did for me. Hang in there, you will get it. DA

Pam, between Eimear's response and DA's response here, you've GOT it. JM2cents, Noreen

I hope I don't add to Pam's confusion here but I have to say I disagree with this response. This pattern stitch does not have a K3 border on each side. The K3 is really part of the repeat. Think of the repeat as having a K3 on each side and the K6 is the end of one repeat and beginning of the next. So the number of cast on stitches should be a multiple of 17 stitches as Eimear explained. It might be clearer if it were written *K3, K2tog, K3, yo, K1, yo, K3, sl1, K1, psso, K3*.

Ah, this is the very reason that I use charts. :) It is so easy to mis-read final knit 3 as an extra 3 sts at the end of the row. Thanks for pointing that out. I think that the original problem was caused by not understanding that K2 tog was in reality one stitch, not 2 and yarn overs were 1 stitch. By using the instructions as written in the pattern book, using stitch markers, would it not be easier to understand how the repeat works in those instructions? Not every one likes charts or charting projects.

DA

LOL NOt to worry. We *all* do that from time to time.

Higs, Katherine

I just found another nasty mistake in my favorite knitting book. Instead of dwelling on the negative, does anyone know of a knitting book that does NOT have any mistakes in it? We should send the editor a warm message of congratulations.

One nice thing about the "Big book of knitting stitch patterns" is that it has pictures, so sometimes I just try to work backwards from the pictures when the knitting instructions or charts are unclear.

Aaron (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!)

Thank you all so much for all the help. I see now that I didn't know how to interpret the lace patterns correctly but since you've explained it the patterns are working perfectly now. I don't know what kind of brain block I had going on up there but it seems you've tunneled through it! Thanks so much! Pamjam

Mirjam counted the number of stitches after knitting them> When you count the stitches BEFORE they are knitted, you should have the same number. So lets count again: K 2 tog =2 K3 = 3 yo=0 K1=1 yo=0 K3=3 sl 1=1 K 1=1 psso=0 K6=6

When I first tried to figure this out, I counted the psso as a stitch too, but of course it isn't.

Ria

;-)

Ria

Pam the actual repeats are from asterisk to asterisk which is 17 sts It begins with 3 though and the last repeat ends with three to match - hope that helps God Bless Gwen