Query about glass cutting

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I am an owner builder and as such have glass needs for my windows.
If I have a large piece of glass is it feasible to cut that glass down
in size and use it for a windows?
Would this be cheaper than outright purchase of glass precut to the size
required?
I am assuming that pretty much any qualified glazier could do this (if
of course it is doable and worthwhile)?
I have the opportunity to get all the glass I need FOR FREE so this
information would be good to know.


This was the only glass newsgroup I could find.
I tried to call glaziers from the yellow pages but all I got was the
runaround. It seems if you aren't ordering a broken window to be fixed
or something similar then you are wasting their time. Any of these
companies that would have put me through to someone in the know would
have most likely had all of the business when it happens

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I am just curious, and of course, can answer your question, but I am
wondering about something.

This person that puts you through to someone, how do they make a living
"having all of the business" when it happens?  Glass shops make money
selling glass, and you have all the glass you need for free.  So why should
they be interested when that is not what pays their bills,  makes them a
genuine upstanding fine person, but does not pay their phone bill or any
other bill.  SO, educate me on how helping you benefits a glazing business,
please.

Now to answer your question, of course it is feasible and doable, that is
how the glass business buys their glass, in larger sheets, (easier to store)
and then cuts it to meet their needs.  Yes, you can do the same, just takes
technique and know how.

I would be interested in all I can handle when this happens, where in the
world are you?



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sure. they get to cut it and install it and they get paid for their time
and labour. Is that easy. Do you know the answer or are you just being a
dick?

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Can you read?

you asked:

"is it feasible to cut that glass down
in size and use it for a windows?
Would this be cheaper than outright purchase of glass precut to the size
required?"

and I answered:
"
Now to answer your question, of course it is feasible and doable, that is
how the glass business buys their glass, in larger sheets, (easier to store)
and then cuts it to meet their needs.  Yes, you can do the same, just takes
technique and know how."

Who is being the dick?

and I asked where you were at because , my last line from previous post, "I
would be interested in all I can handle when this happens, where in the
world are you?"

I travel and do glazing wherever it is needed, it is what I "DO"

Have someone read this to you as you don't seem to comprehend it when you
try to read it yourself, asswipe.





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obviously I was OK

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Why didn't you just come out and say you were in Australia?



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That would be because Australians are by their very nature,  "criminal".
;<)



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I'm sorry. I didn't think I needed to report my location on usenet to
ask a simple question that should have been able to be answered by one
of the twenty odd people I phoned earlier today. I should have just bent
over and held a fistful of US dollars in the air and then maybe someone
would have answered me.
Thanks for your culture USA.

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Kind of sensitive about it aren't you?  You don't NEED to REPORT, it was a
simple question, you were offering all the work one could handle, of course
I want find out where that is.

It's no damn wonder you don't get answers on the phone, soon as you attitude
shows, no one wants to speak with you, let alone waste their time  on a
money losing proposition.



Re: Query about:can't believe my eyes
Visiting friends and since they have a webtv,thougt I look for a nice
friendly glass artist group,to exchange ideas or ask questions,but what
I just read here,
  the past few minutes,sounds like you welcome people with a real nasty
attitude,that don't do anything but give groups a bad name,think I find
a friendlier one.Glassgrann1
And no I am not from Australia


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no sense of humor, eh?



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  You are correct. Most NG's that are poorly attended get dominated by the
few that post. Then it gets to be a territorial thing, like bulls defending
their flock. Sorry, but there are no rules here. It's sink or swim.

--
"Don't get me wrong...  I'm SNARKY"
JK Sinrod
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Re: Query about glass cutting
1. Buy a glass cutter from the hardware store.
2. Get a cork back ruler or something.
3. Look at a stained glass book to see how to use the cutter.
4. Practice

--
Connie Ryman
Cryman Studio

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Re: Query about glass cutting/my refusal of a like request
I have a "small" one man shop and in the very far past ( a financial
necessity) would be available for odd jobs.
The local glass company in town was called by a person asking for someone to
come out and cut some LARGE (if memory serves) HEAVY GLASS that was stored
in a barn for years.
The local glass company was wise enough to refuse the request and to pass my
phone number along.
Long story short..........the glass was about 28 miles from me, in a barn
that was overgrown with weeds, needed to be moved so I could get to it, was
around 6x3 FEET, dirty and so on.
I tactfully suggested that it was a project that I could not handle. The
person berated and put me (and the local glass company)  down for not
wanting to work, explaining that is what is wrong with the country and so
on.
I cheerfully suggested, I would cut the glass "FOR FREE" (with some amount
limits) if they would bring it cleaned to my shop. They hung up on
me...................
A major lesson was learned: ASK ALL QUESTIONS and assume there is a reason
why they are calling me (who does no advertising nor is available to the
public) as probably there are a few mitigating circumstances to the project.
I am now old enough, marginally wise enough to say NO NO NO and not even
care.

h, who is working on project number 1,088 which is SOLD 14 DF.



Re: Query about glass cutting/my refusal of a like request
I would never consider getting someone out to cut glass that wasn't
cleaned and setup ready for their work and I certainly don't blame you
for not wanting to do it considering your scenario.
I understand my limitations as far as expertise and time go and will
employ someone to make and install all of the windows. I had assumed
that if I could provide the glass (good quality, large sheets, not
stolen, and free) onsite then I might be able to save some money while
still making it worth the while of the window maker/installer.
Quite frankly, I have found that not many 'professional' types seem to
be interested and I suspect that is mainly due to their abilities
stretching as far as installing mass produced precut aluminum framed
windows and anything else is beyond a lot of their abilities.
That isn't a dig at glaziers in general as I know there are a lot of
capable people out there they just don't seem to exist in SA.
As it stands we are probably going to bring some guys out from the UK
that have worked with us before.

Re: Query about glass cutting/my refusal of a like request
Mr.McSpanky wrote:

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Part of the problem is that a glazier with plenty of work doesn't need
you because part of his profit is his markup on the glass he sells you.
Now if you can find a glazier in need of work you can probably strike a
good deal. As Javahut suggested, finding somebody who works in a glazing
shop and would like to pick up a few extra bucks on the weekend is a
good bet.

Tell us more about this "Aussie Holiday" thing.

--
Jack

bobo1148atxmissiondotcom


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What is an owner builder?

As for the rest of your post. As a builder I doubt that you should even
worry about what a glass shop would charge you to cut your own glass.
It would be minimal. Compared to the cost of just having them do
it...have them do it. They'll get it right, or at least should.
Besides, what better way to build a relationship with another
business....what with you being an owner builder.

Andy


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Well,   as an "owner builder"  I'm sure you are familiar with the scenario
where the home owner wants you to come hang a door for him (that he got for
free somewhere) and install the lockset and hinges (which he already has),
leaving you with no place to make any profit other than selling your few
hours of labor.

So, this FREE glass?  Why is it free?   Scrap from some other glazier,
seconds from a manufacturer?  My experience is that if something is free,
the donor is getting exactly what it is worth.  If it was first quality
goods,  they would be selling it.  Or, you are stealing it?

So any glazier that would take this on is nutz.....why work with
second-quality/scrap (from an unknown source) with no mark-up in it,  assume
the liability for the glass being cut incorrectly or breakage,  just to
accomodate some cheapskate who wouldn't do business with them in the first
place?   What you are asking for is a nuisance for any business.   Next time
you want your oil changed,  take the shop your own oil you bought on sale
and a filter.  See how far you get.



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   For the right price I'd cut glass in Seberia......... naked. We alll have
our price.

-
"Don't get me wrong...  I'm SNARKY"
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories



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have

That's a mind-boggling thought.

'Prolly wouldn't draw much of a crowd, though.



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