Oven cleaner & Sylvania 30 Watt 120VAC bulb (LED?)

On 29 Sep 2023 19:39:16 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling, troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

Our resident bigmouthed hayseed and braggart is now bragging about his academic knowledge of halibut, haddock, cod, swordfish, wild salmon and so forth! LOL What an assclown!

The glass cover soaked in ammonia cleaned itself up real good.

But when I said "bare metal", I was wrong in that I had meant to say the "paint" (or enamel or chrome or whatever it may happen to be). I didn't mean the shiny bare metal that could/would rust when exposed to water.

It's hard to tell (because it's so grimy, that's why) but it seems to be a blue speckled enamel on the sides and the grill is black chrome I think.

But Consumer Reports did mention NOT to use oven cleaners in the self cleaning ovens so maybe it's the coating that gets damaged with them.

As I recall, Consumer Reports also mentioned a special kind of self cleaning oven with a special kind of coating - so it could be that too.

I never did it - but even Consumer Reports said you might want to get out the vacuum so the implication is that the grease was incinerated to dust.

Consumer Reports mentioned that also. I suppose it stinks a bit. I agree with you that a bit of stinky isn't all that egregious.

Thanks for the advice!

Next time I'm in town, I'll pick up the 30W "appliance" bulb.

Have you tried walleye? Or good trout?

Wild salmon was $12/lb at Costco last week.

Farmed atlantic salmon was $11/lb (it used to be about $8 pre-pandemic).

As luck would have it, I was at a supermarket today and looked in the open top refrigerator case and saw a 6 stacks of tilapia. TTBOMR first time I had seen a package of that fish in a year or two. Coincidence or the evil omnipresence of AHR?

Yep. I can taste the geosmin in all freshwaterfish.

Neither of us likes wild salmon.

Costco doesn't have enough things I want to buy to make it worth paying for the memberhship.

Never heard of it and never noticed it, Geosmin is a natural bicyclic terpene with an earthy odor. According to The Merck Index, it is the “major volatile component of beet essence, also . . . the potent earthy odor contaminant of fish, beans, [and] water.” The human nose can detect it at concentrations in air as low as 5 ppt. parts per trillion!

Me too. I didn't have to look because no store does.

Although 20 years after they opened I heard that you can buy a membership, cancel in the middle of the year, and get your membership fee back. Was this a leniency because they're short of customers, or did they always do this? Or is the membership not really for revenue but to make people feel special?

If you can do this, I thought of going through the store once to see what they've got.

Do you think my oven needs it yet?

I was just upset that Diane Feinstein died yesterday. From Shingles?

There goes all my political fodder about politicians saying one thing but doing another.

I need to find another mascot now. :)

It was interesting how Consumer Reports positioned it. They said a lot of people complain about the heating cycle damaging the oven but the industry says it's only one percent - but one percent seems extremely high to me.

Aw. I was just making political fodder jokes. For fun. I'm upset Diane Feinstein is gone as of yesterday, that's all.

Give me some time to grieve and I'll have my old humor back in no time.

Cindy brought up the fact the ammonia is wasteful too. So we have to choose how to waste our resources when cleaning an oven.

Or....... we can NOT clean it. That's the environmentally sensible thing to do. Right?

I don't have anything to compare it with. How does this look to you?

Yup. Good question. I have the same questions you do. You can't clean an oven without wasting resources.

The question is which method is the least wasteful? I don't know now that I found out making ammonia is a bad deal for the environment just as running the oven on clean is a bad deal.

Which bad deal is better?

We have a process for dishes, pots/pans & utensils. there's a basin filled with soapy water. We leave them in the basin (unless they're too big like big pots).

Usually overnight. Then we rinse them off.

Usually it's cold water (or lukewarm) unless it's still greasy. Then it's the hot water from the faucet.

We collect the water and kitchen scraps in the drain and throw it out the kitchen window (which has a garden below it - conveniently so for us).

Nothing goes down the drain if we can help it - except water that isn't worth the effort to entrap.

Dishwasher is as clean today as it was when we bought the home. It has never been used by us.

The "she" is a "he" which was the subtle point I was making.

Well, some "soaps" have phosphates which are nutrients and my drain is to a self-contained septic system of some sort out the back of the house.

So it's going back into the soil, albeit ten or whatever feet downslope. What we do for most of the kitchen water is throw it out the window.

Kitchen water is what my tomatoes are living off of, in fact.

I think the Consumer Reports were making the point that the glass is actually two glass plates about an inch apart. You don't want drips in the inside plate because you have to disassemble the door to clean them up.

And that's what I'm going to have to do - but in reality I'll just leave them the way they are - because I made the drip mistake already...

I was surprised about the birds. Who knew they're so sensitive to politicians.

They're probably also upset about Diane Feinstein keeling over.

Makes sense to me. The stink has to be ventilated somehow I guess.

All politicians are liars. Just watch what they do. Not what they say.

I was trying to make jokes. Plus I was upset about Diane Feinstein passing away. It was all jokes - the point is that cleaning an oven is pollution. No matter how you do it.

Based on what?

A. The jokes? B. The photos? C. The questions?

My membership pays for itself, with cash back.

D. The posting style, which is strangely reminiscent of Arlen?

I go to BJs, same thing. Good prices on meats, from 20% to 40% less than the supermarket. Paper goods, cleaning supplies, OTC supplements are priced good.

I go every 2 - 3 months and stock up. Yes, the quantities are larger, you do have to buy 6 cans of corned beef hash, etc. Gas is about 25 cents cheaper too.

I find it handy, but it is not for everyone.

Good idea. I think they once said I could.

Years ago I was in Tijuana. A street vendor was selling clam cocktails. He would shuck a couple of big clams into a wax paper Coke cup, add a dollop of hot sauce, and squeeze in the juice of half a lemon. Delicious! I knew full well the clams were fattened on only the finest San Diego sewage.

I never had a problem with Mexican street food of the aquas fresca the street people sell. I did have a meal from a Tucson Panda Express go through me like an express train. Makes you wonder...

I don't knw if they've given up but Arizona stocked tilapia in the CAP canal to control algae. The locals broke out their fishing poles. I think the tilapia were replaced by Wite Amur, carp, and apparently catfish.

fwiw, it's illegal to fish the canal and much of it is fenced.

For $40 a pound I want something off an Angus and dry aged. My standards were set in the '50s. Where I grew up everybody ate fish on Friday including the Prods with restaurants having Friday specials. It wasn't expensive for recognizable species. Pollock was considered trash fish and stuff like swai was unheard of.

Trout is one fish I don't care for. I know it is hair-splitting along the species line but Coho salmon tastes like trout to me and I don't like it wither. I do like Atlantic salmon wrapped in parchment with a little dill and baked.

Damn! The old dog learned a new word today! Philosophical question: if you can smell it and not name it does it exist?

I usually break even and that's good enough for me. If I buy a high ticket item like a computer I do a little better with the rebate. The depressing thing is I only use their credit card at CostCo so every month I'm reminded of how much I ate. I keep telling myself it's really the gas purchases.