How does it make you feel?

harry...my long-lost twin.

hey, if they have put up with me for so long here with my depression, they will welcome you with open arms!!!

believe you me, I know!

Mary

I always knew I was a twin. :) It's also good to know that if I am not heard from for a period of time most will know why and not think it's because I am angry or hurt or whatever. I take spurts where I don't talk for periods of time and than it's like nothing was wrong. I hate feeling depressed and hate that I can't do anything about it. The doctors, ( yep many), have tried everything including ECT to no avail. I know a pill will come along someday to end all of this and I will maybe feel what it's like to be normal for a long period of time. lol Harry

Its a hoot...and it really helps to turn to humor instead of despair. Sarajane

Sarajane's Polymer Clay Gallery

good techniques, on both counts. When I worked in the theater costume shop, it would get very difficult to do fine work against a deadline, hour after hour after hour....we'd go as needed to the loading dock after hours and shriek as loudly as possible and jump up and down. Much easier to do more tedious handwork after that. (of course, people expect that sort of thing from Theater Folk...and Artists!!) Sarajane

Sarajane's Polymer Clay Gallery

Exactly!! Try it, next time you run and shriek--add a Moan-tra of your own! Sarajane

Sarajane's Polymer Clay Gallery

Harry..... I know exactly how you feel. When my down period comes as I call it. It feels as if I'm underwater and when I am manicing (as I call it) It's like I'm waterskiing. I've also tried everything short of ECT. I refused that cause of the memory stuff.

When I get like this, I walk away from my beads and walk by them and wait for them to talk to me. I'm just learning how to make things with beads.

But I do have a question for you. I have some shells that come from the seafood my husband eats. Can't remember what kind. But I want to try to polish them and then drill holes in the tops and bottoms to make windchimes. What's the best way to drill without cracking them? I'm afraid of breaking them.

And also let me know if they come up with a pill......LOL

Debbie (New Mexico) Life is too short

mmmmmmmm another one to push around LOL

On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 00:53:15 GMT, "Debbie B" wrote:

Hi Debbie, You hit that nail right on the head. I just couldn't nail down the feeling. As far as the ECT goes... I don't remember. lol Just kidding. In only affect my recent memories that were made in the few hours prior to the treatment, but many have lost total memory. I am happy I retained most of mine, but I will admit, I wish many were gone. Besides.. if I would have lost the memories I wouldn't have known anyway. :) About the shells... the best way I have found to do any type of drill holes is: Be sure you have something to support the object, (shells), before you drill. If you don't have something under the shell for the bit to drive into it will take out a chunk or piece when the bit exits. Think of it like a gun shot wound. The bit goes in small and comes out bigger. But if there is something else for the bit to bite it will be fine. Ramble Harry ramble. Goodness sakes. Now about the shells from your husbands dinner. If they have been cooked or steam they are way to brittle to tumble and will break or crack. Now if he will let you take the meat from the shell before cooking you will be fine. Same as with bone carving.. the bone has to be raw and clean... if it's cooked it will be brittle and break. I am thinking he is eating mussles? If he is... those are beautiful tumbled polished. Sorry... I don't have those, but here is a link to some if they have them in stock?

On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 19:53:15 -0500, Debbie B wrote (in message ):

Welcome Debbie! What kinds of things are you learning? How can we help?

Slowly and under water, so the dust doesn't hurt you. Use a Dremel, a diamond bit and a drill press (ideally). What kind of seafood do you eat that the shells are attractive? I'm a Bostonian, and all I can think of are the shells from steamed clams, which would look horrible. Or lobster shells, which wouldn't really work, either.

I call that pill "chocolate."

Kathy N-V

I've been wondering about this! I'm learning that more and more things need to be sanded under water. But, won't that electrocute me, if I use a Dremel?

Don't put your Dremel in water... just the end of the bit. Use a shallow bowl or dish and enough water to just cover the item. NEVER put eletric tools in water.

Harry

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "meijhana" :

](who is *not* complaining about the time with Vicki, Nicole, and ]Lynda...just wish they were still here!)

so do i, dear. so do i!

----------- @vicki [SnuggleWench] (Books)

Give yourself permission to make mistakes, Harry.

Then, pick your least favourite Paua shell and drill the crap out of it. Make so many holes that is looks more like swiss cheese then shell! I do this when I feel 'precious' about a new material I'm working with and I write it off as education. Then you feel in control of the process because your deliberately over worked it to see how far you can push it. Truely, this method really helps!

If you're trying to figure out where to drill a hole on a piece your trying to sell, why not trace around it, cut out the model and pencil mark a black dot where you think the hole would be most pleasing. It's one way of modelling your idea without wasting shell. You'll probably get a feel for it in a short space of time and find you can then omit the modelling step.

It's the imperfections that make us great, Harry. Sharing imperfections makes you greater still, it says you're not afraid to reach out and connect. Perfect people are boring and annoying! You've contributed in a meaningful way to this group. It's good to have you around.

I am wanting to learn "the stitches" (brick and one bead peyote are the main too) I actually knew somehow to do the 2 bead peyote and didn't know it. LOL . I have bought books, seen every tutorial online, and had my sister in law try to teach me. To no avail. So I'm going to have to go up to the old bead shop and have her teach me. She doesn't charge an arm and a leg and will take her time. Already talked to her about it. lol

As far as helping, I'm so grateful that I have found this newsgroup that I'm enjoying all of it. Specially since others feel the same way I do.

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 2:17:06 -0500, Marisa Cappetta wrote (in message ):

Also, I was thinking that you might want to back your pieces of polished shell with melted wax that you allow to harden before drilling. That way, your hole wouldn't end up looking like a gunshot wound. :-)

The wax can be removed (easily) once the holes are drilled to your satisfaction.

Kathy N-V

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Marisa Cappetta" :

]Then, pick your least favourite Paua shell and drill the crap out of it. ]Make so many holes that is looks more like swiss cheese then shell! I do ]this when I feel 'precious' about a new material I'm working with and I ]write it off as education. Then you feel in control of the process because ]your deliberately over worked it to see how far you can push it. Truely, ]this method really helps! ] ]If you're trying to figure out where to drill a hole on a piece your trying ]to sell, why not trace around it, cut out the model and pencil mark a black ]dot where you think the hole would be most pleasing. It's one way of ]modelling your idea without wasting shell. You'll probably get a feel for it ]in a short space of time and find you can then omit the modelling step.

VERY good, Marisa! it bore repeating. listen to her Harry!

----------- @vicki [SnuggleWench] (Books)

ROFLMAO!!!! :)

Got THAT right!! LOL :)