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I have to say the thing I missed most when we were poor was hot water. We went without heat and hot water for a long time when I was a teen, because I couldn't afford a tank of oil most of the time. I tried to stay at school and work as much as possible, because it least it was warm there. Once in a while, when a friend of mine was working at the public pool, I'd go there to use the locker room and luxuriate in having a hot shower. It was horrible waking up on those cold winter mornings and seeing my breath, because I didn't want to get put from under the covers. Something about stepping onto an ice cold floor went right through me.

Kathy N-V

We've never been without heat and hot water, but only due to swallowing our pride and asking family for help. I can only imagine what that was like for you, Kathy, and I'm sorry you experienced it. I only hope that in somehow, it made you a "tougher" person.

However, we have been in pretty dire straights on more than one occassion. The cards just don't seem to fall right for us--ever. More than once (heck...prolly more than 8 times in three years) I've gone without eating more than a piece of bread for two or three days...so my kids could have enough. I've suffered thru three winters without proper clothing, again, so my kids could have the right things. When my older ds contracted Rhoda Virus, and every cloth item we owned was covered in, ahem, "bodily fluids of some sort", I was carefully cleaning his desposable diapers, so they could be re-used. We couldn't afford new ones, and I couldn't spend all day hand-washing whatever cloths we had because Rhoda isn't a time forgiving illness. I spent my (literally) last 4 dollars on gas money to get him to a hospital for the 4th time in one week. He was slipping away, right in front of my eyes, and there was nothing I could do about it. Not that I begrudged (or would ever even consider it!!) using that last four dollars, but it meant that I didn't eat for two days, as it had been our "rice and milk" money. I have spent countless hours washing mine and Dh's clothes by hand, so we could use what little change we had to make sure the kids' clothing was washed correctly, in a washing machine. We've never owned a washing machine or dryer, and both kids have super sensitive skin..I just can't get clothing clean enough for them.

The point that I'm trying to make is that when I have a brief longing for a material gift for Mother's day, I shouldn't feel bad about it. Yes, I have a beautiful, wonderful family, and there's nothing I'm more grateful for. I am shown in a million ways each day that I'm loved and cared for, with kisses, hugs, looks, and words...and I love every single one of them. But is it so bad, that every once in a while, when it's late at night, and everyone but me is asleep, and I'm busy picking up from the day's rampage'o'children, that I'd like to be able to look up at a shelf, or open a drawer, and see something there that is "just for me"? Something that lets me feel super special for a moment, that makes me feel appreciated and worth something. I'm not generaly a selfish person, so if this is where that part of me rears it's ugly little head, I'm perfectly okay with it.

I'm sorry if all that came off as a rant; it wasn't meant to be. But that's how I feel about it, and I know at least some of you will understand.

~Candace~ your local hemp goddess :)

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vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from snipped-for-privacy@aol.comuhuh (Candace) :

]But is it so ]bad, that every once in a while, when it's late at night, and everyone but me ]is asleep, and I'm busy picking up from the day's rampage'o'children, that I'd ]like to be able to look up at a shelf, or open a drawer, and see something ]there that is "just for me"?

my most precious gifts at times like that are Johnny's handprints or Jamie's poems or Jeannie's cards.

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And this is the reason Mother's Day is so rough for me. Most of the time, I deal pretty well with the fact that I wasn't able to have children. In fact, I'm now to the point that I'm almost relieved about it. LOL! But something about Mother's Day... *sigh* I just hate it, and plan to throw myself into my work until the dust settles.

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On Wed, 5 May 2004 12:30:06 -0400, Diana Curtis wrote (in message ):

What Diana wrote is absolutely true. Being pregnant or in the delivery room doesn't make you a Mom, far from it. That simply means you've reproduced - nothing exciting there. It's the long term emotional nurturing that changes mothering from a biological to a spiritual experience.

Tink, motherhood isn't a function of the body, it's a function of the soul. You're a kind, nurturing person, who kisses boo-boos and helps people grow emotionally. You're a Mom of the best sort, even if Hallmark hasn't made up a card for your type of mothering.

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Kathy N-V

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I wholeheartedly agree. From what I've seen, you qualify as a "Mother-esque" type gal...allllllll the way. :) And hallmark does have cards for this, under the heading "Like a Mom" hehehe...I was a Hallmark Merchandiser for a while.

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I too, treasure these things.

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I know several women in their 40s who, by choice or chance, have no children. One of the things they mention is that if they'd had children, they'd be paying for college now instead of having money for other interests and self development. I think one of the things that mothers usually have to give up is artistic interests, since much of their creativity needs to be directed toward their children. And often, when that need for artistic expression demands a lot of attention, the children suffer for it, as with my own mother.

Very often women with children envy those without, who can direct more energy toward their own personal, professional and artistic development. While those without children envy mothers.

Tina

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Diane is right on. My great-aunt couldn't have children but she made sure every child in her life knew she loved them and doted on them immensely. When I grew up I realized how much she really meant to me and all the women who nurtured me. I sent her Mother's Day cards until she passed a couple of years ago.

I spoke with my other great-aunt a year after her passing. She said that those cards meant the world to her and all my letters kept her very happy. I send those cards to the ladies in my life because they make a difference whether they are a mother to their own children or not. They cared enough about me to make me feel loved and nurtured and I wanted to let them know how I felt.

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Kathy hit it right on. My own mother was hardly in my life. When she was it was for selfish reasons. I never felt loved by her and she never nurtured me the way her mother did. Thank God my grandparents raised me.

My mother gave birth to two daughters. Even though I knew my mother growing up I never felt she was Mom. She was more like a sister lost somewhere. My sister had a much worse fate than mine but she's okay now. Even though Sissy had a worse fate, I'm still glad we weren't raised by our mother. God only knows how we would have turned out.

To top it all off, I never sent her a mother's day card.

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]And this is the reason Mother's Day is so rough for me. Most of the ]time, I deal pretty well with the fact that I wasn't able to have ]children. In fact, I'm now to the point that I'm almost relieved about ]it. LOL! But something about Mother's Day... *sigh* I just hate it,

is there someone you can adopt as a mother????

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vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Diana Curtis" :

]Here's to all the women who nurture others!!!

that is DEFINITELY my Tink!!!!!!!

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vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Christina Peterson" :

]energy toward their own personal, professional

that was the part i had to give up. i did it willingly and because the kids were my responsibility and i wouldn't have done without them. i couldn't go as far as give up the artistic part . . . and luckily, they're the ones that encourage that.

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I can completely sympathize. I also have times where I am relieved not to have children, and then days come along when I really feel the pain of being childless. Making beads always helps. :)

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Tink,

You can adopt me if you want.

Linda2

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-Kalera

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Tink wrote

'And this is the reason Mother's Day is so rough for me. Most of the ]time, I deal pretty well with the fact that I wasn't able to have ]children. In fact, I'm now to the point that I'm almost relieved about ]it. >

hmm - there are many times I'd like to get rid of mine. A SSgt at work sat next to me for about three years (from around the time Mike was 15 - Chris 17) I'd come to work at least WEEKLY and tell her another horror story of dealing with teen boys -- and finish with the phrase "another reason not to have children) (She's unmarried, has none - and due to medical problems - also unlikely to have any). After awhile - it became an inside joke between us.... and she'd laugh and laugh every time I'd come to work with another tale of my life with boys.... even now -- (with Mike's recent fiasco) she walks by me and says "and another reason not to have kids...."

However - Tink - you are in a position where you can always give a lot to youth

- through the Art Museum and other venues -- become an art mentor for young artists - I imagine that could be perfect for you...

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Ok :-)

Wait... You aren't a "problem child", are you?

;-)

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Next week, I'm participating in a reading program at a local grade school. I'll be reading to the kids... I'm thinking Shel Silverstein's "The Missing Piece" or something. Then I tell them what my job is, and why reading is important in my job :-)

Of course, I can think of all kinds of smartass reasons:

So I can spend all day reading RCB and WetCanvas So I can read the instructions for ordering more glass LOL!

It should be fun...

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Nope. I'm even house-broken.

Linda2

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