OT: Just Got Home

Oh, P-shaw on him. You tell him that this stuff happens to all of us. One time, I even got slurped by a...DOG....

The Blessed Fiddy, Patroness Saint of the Disorganized LC in Sunny So Cal Personality Development Specialist (Full-Time Mom!)

I completely agree with garlic and onions both have natural anti virus inhibitors. Also don't forget to brush you teeth. After all that garlic and onions Whew!

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Lori Greenberg" :

] I'll never remember it and it sounds really helpful!

seconded. i always lock them in, but can never find them when i need them. and right now, paper in my house is part of my problem!

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 14:17:12 -0400, Mothwoman wrote (in message ):

OMTP. Manda and I have been checking all day - worrying about you, Starlia. I've been cursing the "frickin' monkeys," because it's fun to do, and because I am so unhappy that a person would bring a wild animal into their home.

Manda has been telling me all about animals from Madagascar, and worrying that your leg would get horribly infected. I also got to see many, many pictures of lemurs online. (ugh)

Please take care of yourself Starlia - you're way too special to be hurting like this.

Kathy N-V

CATS can do this to you. ~~ Sooz To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. ~~Joseph Chilton Pearce

I didn't want the conversation to come to this, but I have to agree. In my former incarnation as a snake breeder, I had the privilege of knowing a lot of people in captive-breeding and wildlife-education programs, and the runaround to be able to keep, handle and breed exotics is pretty challenging... but important. You have to keep papers on every animal, make sure their veterinary care is up to date, be able to prove they have appropriate homes, food, and vaccinations, and that they are handled in a way that is appropriate to their behaviors and tendencies. A lot of people want to have the "coolness" of keeping exotic pets without the responsibilities... but that's irresponsible, and can be considered criminal under certain circumstances.

I hope the consequences to your friend are mild, and that she learns a much-needed lesson. I am sorry for the animals, which will probably have to be put down unless an appropriate shelter can be found for them.

-Kalera

Yep, cat bites are wickedly dangerous. The difference is that cats aren't so closely related to us, and aren't usually wild-caught and imported from tropical countries... a Pandora's Box in itself.

-Kalera

Or, the offending human? Human bites are at least as bad as other primate bites, and a lot more common here. Worse than dog or cat bites, especially re: disease transfer.

There is a theory that HIV was a monkey symbiot virus-- African green monkeys, I think, that got into the human population first via blood/saliva contact when human hunters/potential rainforest clearers moved into the territory. Kaytee "Simplexities" on

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from snipped-for-privacy@aol.comnospam (Kaytee) :

]There is a theory that HIV was a monkey symbiot virus-- African green monkeys, ]I think, that got into the human population first via blood/saliva contact when ]human hunters/potential rainforest clearers moved into the territory.

actually, i thought they'd pretty much proved it. although i could never remember which kind of monkey it was.

the MDs always warned me to have the dog checked if one of the kids bit the dog. they were more worried about the cats when the kids were little.

I have to be back tomorrow morning and may be heading to San Antonio or Houston if needed>>>>

holy cow!!!!

NOT GOOD!!!!

UH OH --

I hope that your doctors can stop the spread - and that the stupid animal had nothing really serious. The owner should be ashamed of himself for keeping an animal without proper shots - which would be a danger to others... even if this person is a "friend" they did not do you any favors...

and should be paying the bills for this mess.....

Cheryl DRAGON BEADS Flameworked beads and glass

Which cannot be repeated enough. ~~ Sooz To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. ~~Joseph Chilton Pearce

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Starlia}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} ~~ Sooz To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. ~~Joseph Chilton Pearce

And remember....if you ever have a lymph node swell up months after being scratched or bitten by a kitty who is under a year old, be sure and tell the doctor to check for cat scratch fever before making everyone panic and think it's cancer or AIDS. After my husband went through all that, and had the offending lymph node removed, the next person who went into our doctor's office with similar symptoms had a much easier time! It's rare, and they don't think to check for it.

methylsulfanylmethane----otherwise known as dietary sulphur (NOT sulpha! totally different!!) its found in every cell, dietary forms are from several sources, and it blocks the formation of inflammation stuff like prostiglandins and their co-enzymes better then Vioxx and all that stuff sith secondary problems! Footballers and other ath;letes put it in the whirlpools for soaking (think sulphur hot springs), animals have been treated with it for many decades, its used for people medically in Europe but here its a "Dietary suppliment" still---tho its used in the solution organs for transplant are carried in because it keeps the cells healthy!. We get it in a crystal powder form from the health food store--10 bucks a pound---you can get it from any Vet even cheaper. Disolve it in water for topical treatments like soaks and poltices. Drink it in water, coffee, juices, etc, for internal---I take 1/4 tsp in my morning coffee, again later on, and it keeps the discs in my spine and also my wrists and elbows from becoming inflammed and crippling me. With my daily MSM and flaxseed oil and walking---daily---I have discomfort or twingyness at most instead of incapacitating debilitating constant pain. Also, used as a wash with water, the MSMgets rid of both teenage and adult acne without scarring---any red, sore, inflammed place can benefit. It gets rid of mange.... all sorts of stuff. And I am allergic to all pharmaceutical antiinflammatories, so for me its this or suffer. Sarajane

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Or any feed store.

The Blessed Fiddy, Patroness Saint of the Disorganized LC in Sunny So Cal Personality Development Specialist (Full-Time Mom!)

Hard to "prove" beyond all shadow of a doubt, so it's still a "theory". Lots of support for it, though. Kaytee "Simplexities" on

OMTP!!! Take good care of YOU Starlia! ~~~~~~~~~heal, heal~~~~~~~~~~~

.Stephanie.

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It's funny. I've done lots of things on my own, like traveling in Eastern Europe alone, and picking up hitchhikers, etc. I've noticed it's always the men who are impressed, saying it sounds more dangerous than something they'd choose to do. The women just want to know what happened next.

Tina

"Mothwoman" wrote...

From a website I found on keeping primates as pets - "It is true that primates cannot be domesticated. One reason [...] is because if they become to accustomed to humans they become biters and very aggressive. One of our most common questions from owners is how to remove their teeth after the animal starts biting the owner and their family." Other websites also talked about how *depressed* the monkeys get from living without other monkeys. :(

Another story I read was about a monkey who died a few days after being removed from the owners 'home' to the care of a wildlife rescue person. It died only 3 days after being moved into their care. But before the poor thing was given to the wildlife rescue personnel and subsequently died, the monkey was subjected to having it's teeth removed, it's fingernails removed and then it ended up being put into a shed by it's owners. The wife said her husband wouldn't tolerate the monkey in their home anymore. So they just dumped it into a shed in their yard... a shed that had no air flow and no windows... the poor thing just curled up into a fetal ball and was totally unresponsive. :(

I hope to God that Starlia is ok. But I also hope that her friends get a clue by 4 and realize that primates aren't meant to be kept as pets. And I really hope they get rid of all their monkeys because it looks like this type of incidence will keep happening now that the monkey has bitten one person. Heaven help them all if a child gets bitten next time!