Re: Typical beginner question

Sep 01, 2003 5 Replies
  1. Is this gas available in anything larger? The local welding suppliers say no but I can't imagine why not. One guy filled a large propane tank with MAPP but without knowing the vapor pressures of each, that's amazingly dangerous.>>


yes it is!!! Don't DO THAT!



I have a MAPP tank -no longer used (but cannot ship it because it still has gas in it - or I'd offer it up). I believe it is 20 or 22 lb size - I got it at my welding supply. They look about like the old aluminum C02 tanks...



If your welding supply company is brainless - I suggest you try a different source... Also call some local plumbing shops - since they often use it, and may know of a dependable source. Or try buying and empty over the internet.... there is also a 70 lb tank size - but it's pretty big.



your second question leads to the obvious - if you have "outgrown" the hothead...and have discovered it's limitations....


point between the dots" must have something else in mind. What's the next
>step up from a simple MAPP cylinder with Hot Head?>

A minor burner - oxygen and propane is your next step - forget the bigger mapp tank, by a minor, and go on to the next step... a real bead torch.


"intense
>black" rod but my local retailer hasn't heard of it. Is it true black and

yes - it is "blacker" than the regular black (which is really intensely deep purple - as you have probably discovered. Frantz and Arrow springs both carry this stringer. Quit buying locally - and start buying from the larger suppliers -- both are online - and all the information you could need is available from the books - or if you check the information on the web.... start with my webpage

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you will get a lot of information that will be helpful in the longrun, andsave yourself some time and effort!Many OTHER BEADMAKERS also have similar pages on their websites - forbeginners... so you might scope out other beadmaker webpages to see what youcan learn from them.No sense in re-inventing the wheel over stuff that's already been experiencedby others- also wet canvas ISGB and other beadmaker forums.... will provide a lot of your answers by reading the older archive material.... have fun..... Cheryl of DRAGON BEADS Flameworked beads and glass
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Oh, I forgot to add - Frantz has Intense Black stringer - and I have some as well. It's terrific because it doesn't go purply on you when using it as decoration.

I now have your FAQ page bookmarked Cheryl - I hadn't seen it before. Thanks!!

Kathy K

You can get MAPP and Propylene in bulk, try Airgas (I think they're nationwide).

Heating a specific area with a Hot Head is doable, though difficult; try holding the spot you want heated to just one side of the flame.

The next step up is a Minor or Bobcat oxy/propane torch.

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fun!

Realistically, you never will do detailed work with a hot head. And the savings on gas will pay for a minor burner (oxygen/propane torch) setup within a year.

To all who responded to my "beginner" questions - thanks! This seems to be a very helpful, positive group, unlike a few others I've had experience with. Now I need to work on my techniques, upgrade equipment, add some stock...

- Steve R St Louis

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