Outline problems

What type of machine do you have? I have a Husqvarna Designer 1 and I have this same problem with downloaded designs. They look great on computer... but when I stitch them out. When I asked at dealer... oh... they said they can't be responsible for free downloaded designs that are not theirs. (sure they can't, they want to sell me theirs!)

Becky

Some of the problem could be your stabilizing. What type of fabric are you using? You might also try to use a basting file first. It is free on

This hold the fabric better and might help. Any other questions, just ask. Nana

They will not give out your info.

-- Sugar & Spice Quilts by Linda E

Well it's not really so much whether they will give it out or not, the fact is they need it to give something away for free. So it's not really free is it? It costs. And if someday they go belly-up, the next owner will have all this data they can do whatever they like with, including selling it. This is done more and more often. Look how many times we get spammed for posting in various newsgroups. I won't even use my real email address for anything except a purchase. They can keep their "free" stuff. I will make my own files if need be. Thanks

Hi Becky and Atlantis------It is true that many of the free designs around are not terribly well digitized and fail in the outline. Many times you can skip the outline and still have a nice design........also.........plenty of backer, and maybe SIA to stabilize will help.....the fabric "draws" a bit in doing the fills..........

The designs sold by HV and their dealers have been created for use on HV machines, and have been tested on those machines. If someone has a problem with one of those designs, it's a pretty good bet the problem lies with the user's machine and/or something the user is doing or not doing. There's no way you can expect a dealer to successfully troubleshoot problems with downloaded designs, which may have been poorly digitized.

Dealers may be able to offer some suggestions when problems develop with commercially-available designs. I would think that most, if not all, commercial designs, available over the 'net, or purchased at a retail outlet, have also been tested on various brands of machine. We were involved in testing designs for one company on one brand. Each design was tested by different people using machines in each of the formats the design was offered.

Try another layer or two of stabilizer and see if that makes a difference.

gwh

I have a BAbyLock Esante, and have the same problem with the outlining. I doubt very much if it is always downloaded designs, because I have had this happen on disks purchased for this machine. Could it be the stabilizer? What tips should we be following? I thought I had the right stabilzer, and plenty of it, but maybe it's not tight enough. These designs I am currently using are not hooped, only the stabilizer is. Sometimes I hand baste it , sometimes not. Those of you suggesting basting, are you thinking the fabric is moving?? I am using sticky type stabilizer.

Karen in NWPA

What you want to achieve in the hoop is a "tambourine skin" type tension This is truly necessary for proper registration Therefore use a "wet laid" non directional non woven

and heavy enough for your material and stitch count As to the type of stabilizer With Hydro Stick - water activated sticky stabilizer - there is no residue on hoops and needles

non wovens that we coat with the Hydro Stick adhesive are all nondirectional dense "wet formed" non wovens Pls feel free to email me direct We will send samples for your own tests

Hi, I don't presume to know all the ins and outs of this problem but it is mostly caused by "push and pull" on the fabric due to the density of the design. If you think about it, the thread has to go somewhere so it pushes the fabric out at right angles to the stitches and pulls it in inline with the stitches. The Artista software has built in pull and push compensation that allows you to control this to some degree. Stabilizing helps but not completely.

-- "Shut up and keep diggen" Jerry

What seems to work for me is that I rarely hoop the fabric, only the stabilizer, and use temporary adhesive to hold the fabric in place. That way I get less stretch in the fabric.

Another thing that works really well for me is to use basting stitches. Embird can do them very easily, or if you really want to get close to the outline, draw a line around the design with your digitizing software. Just make sure that you make the stitch length long enough so you can take it out easily after your design is embroidered.

Hope this helps.

I have also been hooping only the stabilizer, and not the fabric. I think this basting idea might be of great help. I have used the sticky stabilizer, as well as non sticky with the spray adhesive. I think hooping the non sticky gives a much tighter surface, and am wondering if that is a better choice. It is disappointing to have the final stitching be off when it comes to the outline. And in some cases it is more than disapoining, it simply ruins what you are doing. I can do many designs with no problem, and then all of a sudden, there it is again. So, I am sure it is something I am doing wrong. Does anyone out there think that the tighter surface is the way to go, and the best choice of stabilizer?

Karen

If you are going to use a sticky stabilizer iorn spray adhesive Try Hydro-stick

only a lirttle bit of water onlyIt cleans up w waterIt is easily repositonable and the non woven stabilizers that we use areall "wet laid" non wovens dense - soft and non directional This should eliminate a basting stitch , peel andsstick stabilixers and sparay adhesives No residue left on needles or hoops

If you e-mail your address privately - off list we will send samples for your own tests

Most outline problems are from fabric pulling. The more stitches the more the fabric is pulled from the edges.... try this:

1) Use spray on starch 2) Dry it with hot iron 3) Do above again 4) Use 505 temporary glue the wrong side of the fabric, be generous with it! 5) Use a GOOD strong stabilzer and put on the glued side of the fabric, push the two layers together with your palm, all over, on a hard srtface.

You should have a piece of fabric that is stiff like paper! If the outline still doesn't line up, I think you will have to blame the machine.

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Thanks to you all. I tried without hooping the fabric, just put a biadhesive on the hooped stabilizer and fabric fixed over it. For now it seems working well but I think it depends also on the type of fabric

Thank you