here comes the tools now

OK I've been bitching about the lamps from Korea, China, and Mexico for the last 10 years. Then I was seeing finished panels with hundreds of pieces for under $99 showing up at the mall. Well now you won't believe what I just saw. Comfort grip style stick cutters, with the colored plastic handles. Ready for this....... at the .99 cent store! One of those stores that you see in your neighborhood or strip mall with all the household products, electrical, shampoo, etc. Yes the Toyo type cutters we've seen selling for about $30 bucks, for .99 cents each. The only drawback is that so far all I see are the wide heads. Can't tell if they are carbide or steel wheels, but I can tell you that they cut just great! Another dagger for the American retailers.

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Glassman
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i have spent the day dealing with a) a woman who thought when i said 750, she thought i meant $7.50. b) a woman saying her neighbor had just taken a class and could make her a front door like 'that' . c) is this glass??? dunh... d) gee, how do you do this (got an hour or two?). and e) a kid grabbing an apprentice's music box, tearing off an angel's wing and when presented to the father/ son their denial even tho CLOSELY observed ! You know, if the tools are half as good and a quarter the price, i think i may have to 'adapt' and buy, and BTW the day i sell my shit on EBAY is the day i have adapted AND died Brady boy! I have SEEN your stupid boats in WAL -MART for 12$!!!! Does that make you proud? either you let them steal your designs, or they ripped them off, or you hired them to re-create them. How exactly does that fit into your adapt or die crap!!! my high -end customers have not wavered and as for the ones that see price , not quality as the deciding factor, well YOU can have'em ( but i think China will have you bowing to them soon! how the heck are you gonna guarantee that crap you are peddling???) !. f*ck your stupid little catch phrase, let's see how you handle the law suits for crappy workmanship! They don't have to deal with guarantees in CHINA or Mexico! How's Canada stand on selling faulty goods? m

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Michele Blank

i am just adapting! Actually, i'm just sick of hearing that jerk spouting his 'catch phrase' which means exactly nothing to any real artisan out there. We all know we need to constantly create new ideas so our old customers can have excuses to buy more stuff from us (unless our workmanship is so bad they would never consider a repeat purchase...)! Besides, Darwin came up with the idea long before he did! and tho HE might argue the point, plagiarism is NOT a form of flattery! He's not even creative enough to come up with an original 'catch phrase'! m

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Michele Blank

Similar but it's 5 times the one I saw for .99 cents. It doesn't say if the wheel is carbide?

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Glassman

Dennis I need to ask you again why you keep up this defensive and adversarial attitude? Your business is in no way shape or form like what we are doing. You are much closer to the Chinese than the rest of us. As far as I can tell, we are all pretty happy and successful selling higher priced products in the good old US of A. Why must you keep lecturing to a group, that needs no advice about how to sell our products? Your clients are not ours. How many boats do you need to sell to make as much as I do on a $2000 commission? I'm happy selling my one window, instead of 300 suncatchers. Listen up.... each and every one of us can do what you are doing. Hire cheap labor and mass produce a simple product, sell them at a profit, and when they are copied cheaper, come up with another one. Been there... done that. I used to mass produce cut tiffany lamp kits for Worden designs, crosses, ethnic specialties, holiday suncatchers, so many more. I sold directly to department stores and mail order catologs. We now create beautiful stuff for much bigger bucks. Sure we bitch about some things going on in the business world, so what? That's human nature. It's not what you do to make a living Dennis, it's your superior attitude and constant preaching that drives us crazy. Just be a member of the SG community, and not tell us that you are the king of it because you can adapt.

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Glassman

I guess that pretty much says it all,

"At the University Masters level," accredited by whom? by Dennis, of course,

for whom? for beginners that need to learn technique, so "all hail the King, long live the King" need to see your name in lights? Go to Broadway.... need to be placed on a pedestal? OK, you can be on a pedestal, consider who put you there, and how long they will be around....

"Las Vegas GlassCraft Expo, in our studio, at Victorian GlassFest, online at Glass Campus" and all of these places are designed to encourage the hobbyist, which is a good thing. The hobbyist is what keeps the retail store humming along. That's a good thing.

Careful how you apply the words, ART and ARTISAN, wouldn't want to confuse anyone and have them assume you are teaching them how to earn a living at ART, your teaching them how to earn a living (I hope) crafting in glass. There is a difference, a big difference.

And now we know for sure, "I DO NOT CARE."

" I'm here to teach people how to create a business enterprise making and selling glass art."

First, you have to know what that is, tha's the problem, dude, that's why I do care.... and you are amusing to have around. Kinda like a pet rabbit....

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Javahut

TOO MANY THREADS TO KEY ON, but............... I have about 25 years of making lampshades, both production panel lamps and small piece well made Tiffany style shades. I started off when the 3rd world countries had not yet gotten into "cheap and cheaper" labor intensive crafts. I still can average just under ONE HOUR start to finish on an 8 panel 8 piece shade. Used to sell them as fast as I could produce them, and it generally took longer to get it the gallery, store or customer than it took to make it. My usual phrase is as it relates to the Tiffany type shades: If you (the client) cannot tell the difference between a YOGO and a LEXUS.......buy the yugo! My TIFF Type shades start around $3,000 and go to just under $10,000. I have a list of clients who have asked me to send photos (jpgs) of my latest shade. Shades rarely hang around (mainly table top ones) and I have a standing order for a pair of 16" peacocks when I FIND THE EXACT GLASS for them. I have endured some minor health problems (emergency quad by-pass sugary, with a heart attack thrown in and just month ago my second full hip replacement) and will start back to "work" in January. If we put as much energy into work and being time and cost EFFECTIVE as is put into sniping at each other in the group, the time would PROBABLY be better used.

Happy Holidays and a Healthy New Year

Howard

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howard

wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

I think you need to go back and read what I wrote. IT'S YOUR ATTITUDE. It's not what you're selling or preaching, it's how you go about it here that drives us all to distraction. You needed to copy and paste ONE persons, out of context complimentary reply to you from another board. Did you tell him/her how to get a good bead? Find one from this board. This board is occupied by lots of SG owners & pros. We don't want or need your entreprenurial advice. We're all making a nice living thanks. You need a flock of newbies to impress. As to your nasty and paranoid ramblings about my "buds that bitch, whine, and snivel", and your revealing comment "I DO NOT CARE what you or your antagonistic friends want or like". There is not one poster here that I have ever personally met. Don't confuse me with someone else. I rarely get into your fights. This board is mostly populated by existing SG folks. Dammit man can't you see what kind of responses you're getting? You have zero supporters in this fight of yours. Come our from the corner you've backed yourself into. Do you really need to be selling your line of BS 24/7 and 100% of the time here too? It just doesn't work with us. We're not impressed with your flaunting of your credentials. I made the Peacock for NBC, I lectured at the Russian Embassy. I sold the Arch Diocese well over $100,000 in goods. We've all given lectures. We've all done most of what you do. We're not idiots because we chose a different path. Be one of the gang, or can't you drop the pretense long enough for a LOL?

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Glassman

It occurs to me that you'd have a lot more time to work if you weren't spending so much time bragging and pontificating on various forums.

I bet you are gonna just get freaking rich making fused suncatchers and casting glass for the masses.

The only reason I haven't killfiled you is because I wanna see what dumb-ass bullshit you will spew next. You are funnier than anything on tee-vee.

Please don't resume taking your Thorazine....you are too much fun the way you are.

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Moonraker

Michele....please stop holding back. Tell us how you really feel. ;>)

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Moonraker

Is this the one you are talking about?

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also have the pistol grip and the brass handled ones.

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Moonraker

How many hours to finish a Peacock Howard?

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Glassman

Heh, I know a cocker spaniel that has more brains and personality than Dennis.

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Moonraker

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Good to hear you are on the mend. Take continued good care of yourself!

Merry Christmas!

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Moonraker

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Idiot Stomper

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