O.T. My poor city.

From what I have learned from different sources, some time between the end of summer, and early fall, the upper level winds shifted over the Pacific. This was not an El Nino, or La Nina, but some completely new phenomenon that the meteorologists have not seen before. The last I gathered, the meteorologists have no idea what caused the shift, nor have they any idea when it will end.

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F.James Cripwell
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Sorry to follow up on my own post, but half an hour after posting this, I have just watched on CNN a report saying that a La Nina has developed over the Pacific. I had not heard of this before.

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F.James Cripwell

Maybe the world is just tired of us people ,, and wants to shrug us off his shoulders??? mirjam

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Mirjam Bruck-Cohen

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Her, Mirjam, Her!

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lucretia borgia

Correct. And that would be China. And who is the biggest purchasing entity of Made In China stuff? Walmart. And, Walmart OWNS China. Netflix has the new documentary called, "The High Cost of Low Price." I recommend everyone rent that (if you have Netflix).

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Jangchub

In your next post you did say La Nina is active, however, the earth shifted and was knocked off its axis by up to 5 inches when we has the tsunami. That many not sound like a lot, but when the entire earth has a wobble that large, it is bound to change things.

I also think it's time for people to see that the greenhouse effect is rather tangible.

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Jangchub

A couple of points. I assume you mean that the Chandler Wobble has increased 5 inches. I know of no science that shows any correlation between the Chandler Wobble and weather. It may cause more earthquakes, but that is still very controversial. Global warming may or may not be real. However, whatever is causing it, it is most certainly NOT an increase in the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere.

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F.James Cripwell

For once, Lucretia, I agree with you!!! (No the world has not come to an end). However, as I have noted many times, I am a scientist, and I only believe in scientific cause and effect. Meteorologists are starting to get a handle on what causes these phenomena.

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F.James Cripwell

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Jeri

Actually, I didn't mean the Chandler Wobble, but here are some other thoughts on this:

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can't comment as a scientist, I am not. I would have to be aspecific type of scientist in order to comment adequately. Everythingwould be an educated guess and not based on Impiracle Evidence. However, there is not much disagreement that when the earth has major tectonic activity, increased volcanic activity, particularly in the ocean that, weather indeed can be changed, jet stream is shifted north or south depending on the opposing season, and greenhouse effect is no longer just a legend. CO2 absolutely does play a part in the greenhouse effect, thus, the term greenhouse gasses.

If I'm incorrect about any of this, so be it. I say to check for yourself.

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Jangchub

Out here in the west we have just had a beautiful December. Warmer than usual but not the warmest. January was just as beautiful, even had a bit of rain. Also warmer than usual but not the warmest.

Chances are pretty good that if we left this whole planet like the Garden of Eden future generations will screw it up anyway so I intend to spend my time enjoying the weather as it comes rather than wondering why.

Maybe I will get lucky and get the chance to plant my own Pineapple or Peach trees.

Fred

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't backstitch to emailjust stitchit. If you are on thin ice you might as well dance!

W.I.P. - "Fiddler on the Roof", "Oriental Maiden".

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Fred

Ours has been weird too! An exceptionally dry january, about 0.7 inches of rain, and then yesterday was the wettest february day on record.

Doesn't make sense, but we take it as it comes. Actually here, in Florida, the weather tends to be so predictable..........sunny and warm, that something unexpected is really great!

Gillian

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Gill Murray

If you will read what I said, it was that an increase in the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is not the cause of global warming. CO2 is, indeed, a very minor greenhouse gas, and does contribute to the greenhouse effect. And I have checked for myself, thoroughly.

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F.James Cripwell

On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 15:20:39 GMT, Jangchub wrote:

A couple of months ago I saw one similar to the one you mention or perhaps the same one on TV. It was about the garment workers in India. It had a fellow going around looking for the best price for having clothing made and finding that companies who said they guaranteed good working conditions and a certain hourly wage actually were quite willing to cut the price to get the order, work their employees long into the night with no overtime pay to fill the orders. That was cutting the price from 25 cents per garment to as low as 20. Only a couple of the contractors approached would not cut price. Same garment, same materials. It was a blouse as I recall. The garment workers worked up to 7 days a week and long into the night to fill orders and were not paid for the time over the regular working hours as much as 20 hours a week. It showed the living conditions of these workers and how much food cost etc. As the argument is always that the cost of living is so much lower in these countries. They flew a couple of the workers to the US and took them to a walmart store where the gym /sweat style pants they had sewn were selling for I think it was $17. These were garments these women had actually worked on as their company had the contract to supply them. Many of these workers are working for as little as 9 cents an hour. They barely manage to feed themselves . Factory owners and managers are willing to cut prices and overwork their employees as the companies buying the clothing shop around and grind the price down as low as they can.

There has just finished here on our national TV station CBC a series on China. China Rising I think it was called. Young people leaving the country side in droves to work in factories, living in dormitories working long days in unsafe working conditions etc, the pollution problems especially in the rivers and the forcing of farmers off their land to build factories etc. Ruby

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Stitcher

This is a new release, but I am not certain you didn't see this same doc. I also saw the one you mention toward the bottom of your post. When you look at it, it's just so awful the suffering that goes on so we can remain the wealthiest nation in the world. Or anyway, they think so, this admistration.

Off the grid is looking better and better. Making my own clothes is looking more and more necessary.

Dell >>

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Jangchub

In Alberta, we had our second warmest January since they started keeping records in the early 1900s. And our city just had a motorcyclist make history by being the first to be in an accident in February - they're certainly a rare sight around here.

Addie

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Addie Otto

Olwyn, I am glad that you and yours have survived the tornados in tact. Ruby is right, here in Atlanta we haven't really had a winter at all. It's been so very mild that it's felt more like autumn that winter, and this is during our coldest months. If it continues like this I am going to have to move to cooler climates because I CANNOT stand the 8 months of summer we get here with the knowledge that I will NEVER get cold weather.

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Chris Howard

Crap, crap, crap. Does this mean I'm never gonna see cool weather again?

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Chris Howard

"Fred" wrote

May I suggest you start up this venture in the RM of Pipestone?? The Pipestone Provincial Pineapple Plantation Company has a sort of ring to it. Dawne

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Dawne Peterson

My problem is that we didn't have enough cold weather for any peaches this year. I will be glad to see a few dozen, if that. Hopefully I'm totally wrong because if I could choose one food for the rest of my life and I had to choose one, it would be fresh from the tree, organic, peaches. Not those mealy things we buy at the store.

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Jangchub

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