Just curious NightMist, why do you think is it acceptable to have food restrictions based on your religion but not on other beliefs like the ones you describe? Not that I have any (restrictions, that is), but a belief is a belief....
PS: my > That said, I find people who without medical or religious reason fancy
Anyone has a perfect right to eat what they will for whatever reason. However no one has the right to pitch a hissie fit about the food I put on my table on a feast day. People with religious restrictions are less likely to do that than people with political convictions. Now if you were to tell me in advance that palm hearts are something you don't eat because you are trying to save the planet, I would have no problem with not having them on the table, or inviting you to a different feast if it was a day where they were an especial part of the feast. If you showed up after that and pitched a fit because I had a cone of trash sugar on the household altar (has happened once) I would likely chuck you out the front door. Thing is, it has been my experience that people who choose what to eat for political reasons are more likely to be slipshod about informing the hostess because then they get the chance to throw their conversion pitch at dinner. I haven't ever gotten that from people who have restrictions for other reasons. OK, once I had a Baptist get up and preach about how _not_ eating certain things was sinful. It was after desert so I don't reckon I threw him out hungry.
Perhaps I am over generalizing, in fact I bet I am. It is very true that there are complete jerks and absolute sweethearts in any slice of the population no matter how it is cut. You just have to not be afraid to show the jerks the door if they get in the house.
NightMist did inquire of the Baptist's girlfriend if she would be offended if I tossed him, she wasn't. In fact I think she was relieved.
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 08:18:56 -0800, DrQuilter wrote:
Yeast have rights, too! *huge wink*
The whole animal research issue irks me.
If it comes down to a rat, a cute little monkey, or me, I pick me.
I totally agree that unnecessary animal research is wrong. But the FDA's cop out policy on it is misleading to many people, and groups like PETA who post lists of companies that allegedly do animal testing are as bad or worse.
I will sum up:
The FDA says nobody has to do animal testing, but they have to test. For a number of things that the FDA requires testing on, there is no alternative to animal testing at this time.
PETA publishes a list of companies that allegedly do animal testing. Some of the companies on this list have not done animal testing since the 70's (or I am told in one case ever, but I would need to research on that to say with certainty). But some of their suppliers do do animal tesiting, in compliance with the aformentioned FDA rule.
NightMist
Got a recipe you're willing to share? Now that I have a real kitchen, it's time to get back into yeast massacres. Which is a challenge when you're allergic to every grain with gluten in it, but I always did like a challenge. :)
GGGRRRRRRRRR Don't even mention PETA to an Aussie from a rural area!!!!
They have started a world-wide campaign to ban Aussie wool and wool products because we mules our sheep to prevent fly strike. If any of them had ever had to watch sheep slowly dying in agony from fly strike they might rethink their position - but there is no talking sense to these people. And if you don't know what mulesing is don't bother to look it up on the PETA site - that is nothing like what happens!
Out here if a farmer "allowed" a flock to be hit and then continue to suffer with fly strike he would probably be hauled into court for animal neglect or abuse.
I do not support animal testing for "commercial products". I do not tolerate animal abuse in any form. I am a Life Member of the Animal Welfare League. But I would willingly help "eradicate" most of the more rabid animal rights activists as they do more harm than good to genuine efforts to protect animals.
Just needed to say that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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er... In the United States, a mule is an animal of equine origin. I can't see mules having anything to do with sheep; what the heck is it?
There may be a few less activists after next week.
Just found this at
(Major snippage, in summary New Jersey is having a 6 day black bear hunting season because the bears have overpopulated and are wandering into suburbia)
"Last July, a 142-pound female bear bit the leg of a sleeping camper at High Point State Park, in the state's still rural northwest corner. The camper's injuries were minor. The bear was shot by a state biologist.
A month earlier in Egg Harbor City, near Atlantic City in southern New Jersey, a 150-pound bruin rummaged through garbage cans, ate from bird feeders and jumped a fence a block from an elementary school during a weeklong stay.
Opponents of the bear hunt planned to gather at a weigh station in Wawayanda State Park, with teams also fanning out into the woods looking for bears that have been shot but not killed.
''It'll be volunteers looking to help any injured or wounded bears they come across, or fielding calls from the public for any wounded bears they find on their property,'' Motta said."
I actually do hope that these yo-yos are a bit more sensible than they sound. I just have this visual in my head of an animal rights activist walking up to a wounded bear and asking "Are you OK bear? Are you OK?" I just did first aid training, and that combined with that last bit of the article to give this rather grisly image.
NightMist
That is about how I do, but I just do a straight braid. If I am making it for my gramma to serve to people from grampa's side of the family then I leave off the almonds and do that swedish 4 part braid thing.
NightMist
Seems to be often listed as mulesing, named for the fellow who came up with the proceedure.
liz young > er... In the United States, a mule is an animal of equine origin. I can't
very annoying - for example, being a scientist, I get a lot of grief about animal research, which I am basically against - I work with yeast!
Is yeast a living thing(s)? Do you purposefully injure, annoy, abuse, or kill them? Does PETA know what you are doing behind that closed door? Cyndi being silly again
Okay, now what's an Lwa? Is it pronounced "Ell-wah"? Does the food in the altar draw insects in summer? Can you tell if many spirits make use of your altar?
Cyndi
I seem to need alot of vocabulary classes lately. What is mulesing and a fly strike?
Cyndi, who's feet only touch concrete
Anglicized it is often Loa. pronounce as splelled, L-wah, more or less. No E or Eh sound at the beginning.
It's a voudon (voodoo) thing.
Nope.
Yep. Often the food is 'eaten' and the fluids 'drunk'. The fluids go away at a much faster rate than can be explained by evaporation, the food will either shivel up to nothing or dry to the point it falls to dust at a touch in a similarly short time. Either spirits are dining or there is some wierd anti-pyramid power thing going on. :) There are other things but that is the most dramatic.
NightMist
Well it sounds a bit grisly but - it involves removing a small section of skin to prevent the wool growing around the sheep's backside. If they get fly strike it means that flies have laid eggs in the dags (don't ask!!) and lanolin that accumulate in the skin folds that form there and the larvae emerge and . . . . . . . . well, you get the idea. We don't want to put people off their dinner!!
I could compare it to a common procedure carried out on young male humans in terms of discomfort to the "victim". But PETA believe we are torturing our sheep and would prefer to see them suffer from fly strike.
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