Reply about Dream Angel Batting

Thought that some of you might like to see the following reply to my questions about the Dream Angel batting.

Thank you for your interest in Quilters Dream Batting. Dream Angel is made

with fibers that are neither cotton nor poly. The fibers are man-made fibers, but, again, are not polyester. The fibers have been specially engineered to be flame retardant and the process uses tree pulp and silicone to manufacture them. There are NO PBDE's, bromides or chemical additives. You can not rub or wash off the flame retardant quality - the fibers are inherently flame retardant. We have spent years of research in developing this product. We did not take any 'shortcuts' on this batting and use ONLY Flame Retardant Fibers.

> We have blended 2 different flame retardant fibers, each enhancing and adding

to the flame retardant quality. One of the fibers is designed to char when in contact with flame forming a char barrier; the other fiber also chars and in addition, helps to draw the oxygen from the flame (referred to as 'self-extinquishing). When in contact with flame the batting will not melt or flow and will not help to 'kindle' or support the flame. Independently the fibers have met several international flame-retardant standards.

> Dream Angel's test results were exceptional! During the testing by an

independent testing laboratory, the batting was placed

between 2 layers of cotton fabric and elevated on to a mesh rack (to promote

airflow). The top layer of fabric was caught on fire and the batting formed a barrier preventing the bottom layer of cotton from being damaged at all! Dream Angel passed this difficult new test standard: the California Dept of Consumer Affairs - Bureau of Home Furnishings and Thermal Insulation Draft - Technical Bulletin 604 for Filling Materials Component Test Open-Flame Resistance.

> The Dream Angel is very soft and breathable and very comfortable to handle and

use. It washes and handles similar to the Dream Cotton but has the added feature of being made from Flame Retardant fibers. Safety can never be guaranteed, but we feel that Dream Angel is an excellent choice for children's quilt, teen and college quilts, nursing homes, Christmas tree skirts, and quilts for smokers. As one of our customers said - "a great batting for the ones you love".

> Please let us know if we can be of further assistance. > > Best Regards, > Jane, Kathy, and Neva > Quilters Dream Batting > 1-888-268-8664

Pati, in Phoenix

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Pati Cook
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Thanks for the follow-up post... I was curious and can see this as a viable alternative for baby quilts in particular.

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janice142

oh cool, glad some one got a reply. i didnt. oh well. sounds like good batting. now i wonder how well it handles for machine/hand quilting. anyone here know? cheers from winter with tornados in the south pacific, jeanne

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bout the tornadoes for anyone interested, no where near me tho, wheww.

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nzlstar*

That was my question too -does it cling like cotton? Pati, thanks for the report! Roberta in D

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Roberta Zollner

Um ... is it just me or did they STILL not reveal the fiber content??? IIRC (and my days of remembering those old chemistry classes are over) Asbestos was imminently fire-retardant, too ...

Though, I guess it's possible that they're still patenting their fiber make-up ... but still, I'm not gonna buy a bat who's manufacturers are keeping the content such a secret AND give such a hard sell in response to asking about the content.

That's just me, though. :)

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Connie

Actually they do say "tree pulp". One of the big quilters newsletter wrote about a new batting made from eucalyptus trees so that could be it.

I'm sure patents come into play here.

marcella

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Marcella Peek

I think the "secret" to getting a response was posing a question involving allergies. I mentioned that with so many allergies in my family (true) I needed the info in order to do holiday gift making shopping.

Glad I could get the info. The basic fiber seems to be a form of rayon (made with tree pulp, for a while back called "Tencel") combined with some form of silicone. Still would like to know the name of the fiber. May have to put DH on that track for me.

As far as labeling, back when I was supposed to know all that stuff in school, the US Federal law mandated fiber content and country of origin of the fiber. On everything made of fibers and sold in the US. However, that didn't always happen. sigh. State laws may be stricter than Federal, but if less strict the Federal Law must be followed. (Unless, of course, the fiber product is not transported across state lines, and the "manufacturer" has "sales" under a certain amount per month/year. )

Pati, in Phx

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Pat in Virginia

Guess I won't be touching that. If they can't say...I can't buy for my safety. I'll stick with all cotton--or with a bit of poly when *I* do any quilting.

Butterfly (secrets prevent sales)

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Butterflywings

The silicone part is a bit of a concern -does it handle more like a slippery poly batting? If so, too much trouble to machine quilt! Roberta in D

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Roberta Zollner

Yeah, I have nothing against man-made fibers but when they don't specifically tell you the name of the fibers (saying "made with tree pulp and silicone" just doesn't satisfy me - how long will it last? Are there known allergies to it? etc) ...

Like f'r'instance ... if I was trying to sell a sandwich and I said it was made with roast beef and bread - what does that tell you? Very little. For all you know, I could have stuck frog fingers, mealworms and cooties in there, too. :)

I know there's a diff between batts and food ... but when you consider the hard work and time spent on making a quilt ... well it just seems that the smartest thing is to be educated on what's going *in* the quilt you're working so hard on! :)

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Connie

But that's not really saying much ... the reply seemed to be all sales pitch and little actual information. Which, as someone who does marketing for a living, stinks to high heaven ...

They need to either pipe up and say what's what or not expect a lot of sales. We put in an awful lot of hard work, time, love and consideration into our quilts - the batt should be every bit as good as the effort we put in them. And if they can't tell me exactly what *is* in my batt, I ain't using it. But that's me.

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Connie

Connie wrote: And if they can't tell me exactly what *is*

But do you know "exactly" what is in a polyester batt, or a cotton batt with a scrim? Gotta play a little devil's advocate here :) And I do agree that the note wasn't too specific about the fiber content. I don't think I'm ready to try it, certainly not before I've had my hands on a sample.

Julia in MN

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Julia in MN

Howdy!

Yes, I do know what's in Hobbs Batting; they tell. On the website, in person, at quilt shows & guild meetings, they tell the details. Have never known them to side-step or try to evade questions; they tell.

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This "non-flammable" batting may be just fine, but I'm not using it,'cause in a big fire the baby quilt isn't going to protect much,generally speaking. I'm sticking w/ the Hobbs Heirloom, and occasionally the Thermore poly (thin), 'cause I know what it is. Hobbs: it's from Texas, you know. And so is a majority of their cotton. ;-P

Ragmop/Sandy

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Sandy Ellison

I know what is in it, too. What I really wanted to get across was that polyester is a synthetic fiber too and I doubt if most of us really know what all goes into it. I found a patent description of Polyester Resin Composition at . It doesn't sound any better than tree pulp and silicone.

My favorite batting used to be Hobbs Poly-Down; then I heard about the Hobbs Heirloom on this group. It's my favorite, even if it is from Texas. You and Hobbs are my reassurance that good things can come from Texas :)

Julia > Howdy!

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Julia in MN

{{{{gasping in shock and horror}}}}}

of course good things come from Texas!!! I loved Texas when I was down there and really think I am a displaced Texan. After all, it's where the Really Big Quilt Show is. I'll get back there one day y'hear.

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Sharon Harper

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