WAAAYYYY OT: Ornamental goldfish changing color

Okay, there are experts here on nearly any subject, or at least someone with good search engine findings (And believe me, I've Googled this one to death.). I anticipate, at the very least, some entertaining exchanges.;-)

I have a chocolate oranda, bought back in April when he was maybe three inches long. He is now what I affectionately refer to as nearly "pan-sized", meaning he/she/its body is nearly six inches long without finnage. He is a gorgeous fish and seems very healthy, developing a nice wen (hood). I've never been brand-loyal when it comes to fish food, just buying good stuff, usually from PetSmart. My fish have had everything from Hikari Oranda Gold to Tetra Goldfish Flakes. I also feed the occasional steamed broccoli head to them when they, especially the oranda, seem to enjoy.

My question is, do these fish just sometimes change color? In the past month or so, his color has started to change, from the belly up, to orange. It still makes him/her/it quite a handsome fish, but I *like* the chocolate color. I already have two orange fish, a solid orange and a red and white ryukin. Can I feed them anything that might help him hold the pretty, smoky color? Or am I destined to have orange goldfish? Inquiring minds want to know... Thank you!

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Debi Matlack
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Hey Debi, I have an outdoor pond too. I don't know what the deal is about fish changing color, but 2 of mine did too. One went from orange to a brilliant orange and shiny, pearl white, and one went from orange to black and orange. This happened when they began growing. My fish grew rather rapidly. They were VERY tiny when I got them (3 years ago) and now, like yours, they are "pan sized". I give them high protein fish food in flake form. You may try asking the people at Petco, or maybe a tropical fish store would be more familiar with the reasons - good luck!

Patti in Seattle

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Patti S

Yep, they do, no idea why......

--pig

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Megan Zurawicz

Since DD3 is into fish, I have taken to running and looking it up whenever anybody asks a fish question.

Found this on the very first search:

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NightMist

My fish are not ornamental (although lovely colors and fun to watch), they are working fish. They get a scoop of food occasionally, but are expected to forage for themselves and eat mosquito larvae most of the time. They range from pearly pink-white to deep red-orange. The babies all start out brown-black and change color at maturity. Size is not a good indication, because the males are always smaller than the females. So we sometimes have little orange boy fish that are smaller than their still-black sisters. Roberta in D

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Roberta Zollner

Thanks for the insight, everybody. If you wan to see a pic of my fat little friends, please go to

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I copied this link correctly. There are pics from about a month ago and now. And he really is huge. If you open the large version of the newer pic, that's the approximate size he is now.

Reply to
Debi Matlack

He's really beautiful. . In message , Debi Matlack writes

Reply to
Patti

That's a really cute fish! And I don't know if I've ever said that about a fish before now.

Reply to
KJ

My gks have 2 gold fish for about 2 years now..one has turned white ! Has anyone ever heard of that? It seems to be healthy and has been that way for about

1 1/2 yrs.

"pan-sized",

Reply to
MB

I just called out local tropical and specialty fish store guru and this is what he said.

Your white fish is most likely just fine. A lot of fish change color as they age. The more breeding to get a certain "style" of fish the more chance for it to change color as it matures from juvenile to adult. Most of the koi and goldfish fry are solid black or very dark brown but as they mature they start to get their true colors and markings, some sooner than others. It's cheaper to sell young fish than old ones. The youngsters are the ones the pet stores get. The true and serious fish breeders (mostly in Japan) actually buy fish that are over 3-5 years old but most home pet people don't want to spend a few grand for "true color and trait" specimens for breeding and show. You get what you get, it's a wait and see thing.

So sayeth the fish guru.

Val

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Val

It isn't unusual. I've had goldfish for many years. It's hard to tell how old they are because their in a large pond and breed quite freely. I have had them live for 10 years. Some stay the same color for years and then change. Others never change. My other fish are koi and some of them are over 12 years old and around 30". Their markings make them more identifiable.

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Bonnie NJ

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Pat in Virginia

This reminds me of a rather wonderful practical joke I read about on Usenet many years ago (long before the Internet). A terrapin owner was baffled by what happened to their pet over a period of a few weeks. A friend had gone to a pet shop and bought about a dozen terrapins all of different sizes, all smaller than the original one. They swapped them surreptitiously in stages, so the terrapin appeared to shrink to a fraction of its original size and then re-expand again.

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Jack Campin - bogus address

I thought you ate chocolate and was our Chocolate Taste Tester? And now you are saying you are a chocolate FISH EATER instead? Have I been mislead all these years? Does this mean I do NOT have to have you taste test chocolate from our NEW chocolatier here in town? I haven't been as of yet as I'm waiting for it to get below 100° (As of today we will have BROKEN the record for the most "over 110° days in a summer" 28 being the most on record)

Butterfly (guess I'll just have to try a tiny bit all by myself when it's coolish outside)

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Butterflywings

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Pat in Virginia

Oh! that's fun >g< I'd love to have been there when all was explained! . In message , Jack Campin - bogus address writes

Reply to
Patti

Pati, did you hear that? She's hitting On YOU for some Phoenix chocolate. I definitely said, "OUR here in TOWN" (see below). So, now I wonder if you do want any of OURS or just Pati's....and I can say I HAVE had the pleasure of having some from her town :) Now I wonder just which one of us has been overheated. I go out first thing in the AM to get my daily dose of 15 min in the sun as per Dr orders. NO osteopenia for this gal---so far---that is ONE of the things I don't have. Whew!

Butterfly (not wanting sunstroke either)

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Butterflywings

Well, she had some of the wonderful stuff from down the street last year at Houston. Actually, the factory/shop is in Glendale, not Phoenix. But it is only about a mile down, so close enough.

And I agree, it is hot here. Today we should match the record number of days at or above 110°, average number is 10, we are on number 28 today. (Fortunately not all in a row...... whew.) It should cool off by the end of October, maybe.

Pati, in Phx where it is usually hotter than up in M's B'fly's Fountain Hills...........

Butterflyw> Pati, did you hear that? She's hitting On YOU for some Phoenix chocolate. I

Reply to
Pati C.

Here in Phoenix ...you have to keep a little fold up cooler so your chocolates don't melt on the drive home. :) jeanbaby.

Reply to
jeanbaby

Fascinating! I never realized the goldfish could be such a beautiful and engrossing hobby/pet/obsession.

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Carolyn McCarty

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