Krylon - Matte Finish

I am in the middle of a finishing job - about 60 pieces and using 3 different finishes on the pieces

Bowls and platters - Waterlox - no problems Small items and Boxes - Beale Buffing System Larger Art Pieces - Krylon Matte Finish

I have seen other people's work with this Kryon finish and have been blown away by how good it looks. I have been using this on my art pieces for about 6 months and have never seen the same results - they look good, but not great. There is nothing special about the way my ieces look - Am I missing something? Am I skipping over a step or leaving out a step?

Here is what I am doing:

Sanding the item to 400 with a Souix Sanding Drill Applying a coating of Tung Oil Letting dry and season for up to 6 weeks in a cardboard box

Then blowing the surfgace with air and rubbing out any oily residue light sanding at 400 if needed Then applying the Krylon Matte - - - holding the can 6-9 inches away and spraying lightly in arcs from side to side and up and down Letting dry and rubbing out rough spots with Steel Wool Respray with another fine coat of Krylon Letting dry and setting up for the display - - and being a bit disappointed as it does not look as good as others

UNNNNGH!

Can anyone with some experience wiht this stuff give me a clue?

Thank you

Ray

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Ray Sandusky
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In what way? Perhaps you should be buffing after finishing, but that might depend (and how far you take it definitely depends) on how "matte" you want things, since you're using a matte finish on these things. If the "not as good" is lack of shine (using a matte finish as compared to the buffed on your boxes), buff the bejeezus out of it.

If you need to get a buffer that you can bring to the work to do that, then get one - they are sold for buffing cars. Buffing without waxing might give you a matte finish you'd be happier with thats still matte, but without knowing what way you think it does not look as good (compared to your other pieces, or compared to other pieces done with the same finish by other people - any high quality pictures of examples on the web?) it's rather difficult to choose a direction to go.

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Ecnerwal

Ray,

This may or may not relate to what you are doing. I use Deft fairly often for finishing turnings and other woodwork. I like the semi-gloss finish, but I get better clarity and more depth if I use gloss for all the coats except the last one.

You might want to consider using Krylon gloss on your turnings right up to the last coat and then switch to matt. This might give you a better finish. Just a thought.

Barry

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Barry N. Turner

Maybe I need to buff it out with cloth - I have tried the steel wool (0000) and it just makes it look flatter - the "John Jordan" sheen is what I am after. His pieces are soft, but have a certain "schwing" to them that the Krylon provides, but I have yet to watch John produce a finish - maybe I'll have to come up with a tool purchase excuse to get over there when he is finishing a piece and get his secrets!

Thanks

Ray

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Ray Sandusky

Barry

You know me, I want my pieces to sing, but Lacquer is not for me - that is why I am doing the Krylon thing - I will give it more time in the buff cloth mode to see if that helps.

Thanks

Ray

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Ray Sandusky

Am I missing something, or are you only using 2 coats? That doesn't sound like nearly enough. Double check this with someone who uses Krylon for this application, but I'm a decorative painter and even over acrylics we generally use 3-4 coats - something with a stained background generally gets another coat or two - so I'm thinking that essentially raw wood is going to need even more.

Deb

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Deb Drake

disappointed

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Tony Manella

Thanks Tony! I think the Tung is causing the trouble - if I remember correctly, JJ does not use any oil on his pieces prior to the krylon - I will have to call him on that. I use the Tung Oil before I put the piece up for drying - so it is at least 2 weeks old and dry. But, it may be afecting the bond to the wood.

I wll try the bag and see what that does vs the 0000 wool.

Thanks

Ray

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Ray Sandusky

I don't think there would be a bonding problem between Krylon and oil - I personally don't paint with oils, but I know it is an accepted tole painting practice to use krylon over oil paints - in fact, many people will lightly spray a wet oil painting with it to dry/set the oils when they're in a rush. I would try the brown bag buffing - just make sure the piece of bag you use doesn't have printing on it.

Deb

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Deb Drake

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Tony Manella

ray, john jordan reported at his march demo at our club that the "new formulation" of the kyrlon matt finish is different and not a pleasing as the earlier version. also, don't buff the krylon finish --- it will peal off.

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noa

Thanks - I have found that to be a problem

I am getting better results - thanks to many of the posts here today!

Ray

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Ray Sandusky

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