MS FrontPage problems

saving as HTML from Word, DreamWeaver, etc all put in a bunch of useless crap and tend more towards making web pages that are likely not to work correctly on some browsers (especially the MS generators with non-MS browsers).

It looks ok to me in Firefox. I see the pictures in three rows on my 800 px wide screen. They shuffle around into more rows if I make the window narrower.

Personally I would use a table to arrange the pictures however I wanted them.

I center the table, that way it's visible on most screens at most resolutions...

My guess is that you're using a pre-scripted FP component that isn't "editable" so you have to work around it with a table..

An easy solution is to put each thumb in cell in a table, and set the table width to some fixed value so it doesn't resize with browsers or screen resolution differences. 640 px wide is a save value to use.

Mike

The page wraps for me in 3 rows of 5 thumbs each, using Firebird but it may be different in other browsers.

I would use a table, with three rows and one column. Or 3 rows and 5 columns, so you don't have to put all those spaces (designated by  ) in the code to space them apart. Like this:

_Row_1_Thumb_1_ _Row_1_Thumb_2_ _Row_1_Thumb_3_ _Row_1_Thumb_4_ _Row_1_Thumb_5_ _Row_2_Thumb_1_ _Row_2_Thumb_2_ _Row_2_Thumb_3_ _Row_2_Thumb_4_ _Row_2_Thumb_5_ _Row_3_Thumb_1_ _Row_3_Thumb_2_ _Row_3_Thumb_3_ _Row_3_Thumb_4_ _Row_3_Thumb_5_

Or you can leave it as is without tables, and just enclose every 5 thumbs in paragraph tags-- row 1 of thumbs row 2 of thumbs etc.

I agree with the other poster about Front Page, it writes bad HTML code which is not up to current standards. For example, you're supposed to enclose in quotes all values such as img border, width, font size, etc like this:

For my suggestions, you may have to edit the HTML directly and you probably don't want to hear that--but making minor corrections in the code directly is a good way to become comfortable with HTML, and it seems to be necessary for Front Page.

Ken Grunke

I was mistaken about the lack of quotes, and will eat my words. I pasted your code into an html text editor, but which was in plain text mode at the moment and it stripped all the quotes--and that was what I was looking at when I replied. My boo-boo!

Ken Grunke

I agree with the advice to ditch Frontpage. I use an editor which understands the details of html in all it's glory and any time I pass a Frontpage generated page past it it burps up literally hundreds of syntax errors. That is why Frontpage web sites frequently do not render properly with non-Microsoft browsers -- because they are just plain WRONG.

Bill

Well in MS Internet Explorer, it comes out as one long row. So good to see that MS products are consistent. Martin

Art, I agree with the others suggestions to use a table to have a clean layout. if appears from your html code (which is quite readable actually) that there is no carriage return () in the whole sequence of pictures, that's why they are all on one single line. for a simple solution to your problem, just insert a instead of the     after a picture, and the next one will be on the next line hth,

Pascal

Ted:

I ran your home page past the editor and it generated 12 errors and 33 warnings. I'm emailing you the report offline.

Bill

Would you mind checking mine out and let me know what you experience? Thankxxx.

Thanks again.

You don't mention the version you're using but I looked at your code and it says MS FrontPage Code Generator 4.0... I'm guessing that's probably Frontpage 2000??? I suggest upgrading to FP2003. Works great. Creates much better code.

FrontPage works fine as long as you set the code compatibility in it. I have all of my department heads who create their own websites use it without a problem.

This coming from a guy who's done HTML since 1995, ASP since about

1999, and am in charge of the intranet/internet for a $4 bil company, of which our website (Created with FrontPage) was named one of the top business Websites in Michigan for the year 2003. So use my advice as you see fit.

This all said, looking at your code your have a tag around your images which will prevent the line from breaking. Just remove all your blockquote tags and it will render properly. Can't remember if FP2000 has their gallery function in it or not, but for what you're doing, it would work great.

If you don't mind, tell us what company you are with. I'd be interested to run some of your company's pages past my HTML editor and see what it says. I've never found any Frontpage- generated pages which didn't raise at least some warning flags. Maybe yours would be the first.

Bill