extras are extra and looks well used
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7 years ago
extras are extra and looks well used
Packard has this lathe new for about $6150. 2436 with 2HP motor, standard accessories. This guy wants to sell his extras and chuck separate. $4000 for a 16.5 year old lathe you can buy new for $6150? It looks used. Well used. Not saying that really affects this lathe. I believe they are quali ty and meant to be used forever. But it is definitely well used. Nothing new or fresh about it. He is asking for exactly 65% of brand new price. I sure wish I could sell everything I have owned for 16.5 years for 65% of t oday's new price. I suspect he paid pretty near $4000 16.5 years ago. So he has the idea he can use a machine for 16.5 years and get 100% of his mon ey back. That rarely works in reality world. Maybe reality is different i n San Francisco.
i have never paid asking price on craigslist and so he probably expects a lower price
you always have to start your price high
also have to consider they may want to get rid of it all and will be willing to include extras at no extra
A new 24/36 costs US$4500 ex factory.
well then the price is consistent for a craigslist posting
that is.... it is unrealistic
pricing is an interesting topic and there are people that only study pricing
probably a name for that profession
For some reason I got 16.5 into my mind. The seller has owned the lathe fo r only 15.75 years. June 2001 until February 2017. I am positive that mak es a huge difference.
On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 3:05:12 PM UTC-6, snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wr ote:
d accessories. This guy wants to sell his extras and chuck separate. $400
0 for a 16.5 year old lathe you can buy new for $6150? It looks used. Wel l used. Not saying that really affects this lathe. I believe they are qua lity and meant to be used forever. But it is definitely well used. Nothin g new or fresh about it. He is asking for exactly 65% of brand new price. I sure wish I could sell everything I have owned for 16.5 years for 65% of today's new price. I suspect he paid pretty near $4000 16.5 years ago. S o he has the idea he can use a machine for 16.5 years and get 100% of his m oney back. That rarely works in reality world. Maybe reality is different in San Francisco.Looks like tooling is supplied. Is it 3-phase ?
My Uncle had a BIG one and he turned Cowboy hats. We have three. Other hats were simple.
Mart> >
The ad says the chuck and some of the other accessories are extra cost. It only comes with the basic from the factory stuff. Tool rest, drive center , tail center, face plate?. It is 3 phase, sort of. The motor is 3 phase. It is powered with a VFD. The VFD takes single phase in on the input sid e and produces 3 phase power in variable frequency to run the 3 phase motor and give you variable speed.
Good - Uncles was three phase... No VFD. It had a controller or something that kept blowing up. I supplied snub circuits to him and the problems went away.
Mart> >> Looks like tooling is supplied. Is it 3-phase ?
Unless your Uncle had 3 phase power direct to his shop, or used a rotary or static phase convertor to turn single phase into 3 phase, his lathe had a VFD. There are only a few ways to get 3 phase power. Rotary or static pha se convertor. Three phase power direct from the utility company. Or a VFD variable frequency drive. The VFD has the advantage of providing variable drive for a 3 phase motor. The other methods only operate the motor at on e speed, full. So the other methods would require pulley changes to vary t he speed on a lathe. No variable speed with a dial button.
As I recall his was not a VFD it was a Vacuum tube speed controller using waveform shape. The parts blown were replaceable. He had
3-phase. He was very wealthy and built a 3 story metal shop for his big motor home and the rest for an office and shop. Two others got smaller machines in the class and had a little club. He is now at rest in a family site on the property.Mart> >> Good - Uncles was three phase... No VFD. It had a controller or
OK. He had 3 phase power straight from the utility company to his shop/mac hines. He used the device you describe to get variable speed for his lathe with a 3 phase motor. Not a VFD to provide 3 phase power and the variable speed from single phase power on the input side. I would guess devices no w days that need variable speed and get 3 phase power on the input side hav e a better way to get that. Maybe a VFD can take 3 phase on the input side and produce 3 phase on the output side for the motor and provide variable speed too.
iirc that is true the vfd is an interesting idea and a good idea
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