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Nice to see that Australia isn't the only place that suffers asshole greenies - tree huggers I think you call them in America. Cheers Paul

Unless otherwise stated all references to location refer to Western Australia

Same experience with anti-hunters. They will sit in a steak house and describe the evils of deer hunting.

The usual thing to do is to start a sob story about how some evil loggers were destroying these old rainforests, and how you begged and pleaded for some meager scraps so you could create something to remember the poor trees by, and since you seem to care so much about remembering the plight of the poor old growth trees, wouldn't you like to buy this lovely bowl so when your friends look at it you can tell them the sad story of the old growth forests, and how this is all that's left of those majestic trees? ;-)

Hey man, the *sport* of hunting is NOT COOL or acceptable. Hunting for the purpose of survival is totaly acceptable. And anyone in a steak house knows that the meat they are eating came from the industry where the animals were raised for the purpose, it ain't "hunted" wild animal meat. There's nothing wrong with the way I feel about it.

Alex

City boy!!! -- No sense in being pessimistic - it wouldn't work anyway.

I had kind of a eerie, trollish sensation fter I sent that one.

Sorry! (not about hunting. About the troll post)

First moron you've met?

What's worse are the other turners who bait you about pricing and such without identifying themselves as such up front. Standard answer to them and price=art snobs is that my prices are suggested minimums.

"Ghodges2" wrote: (clip)says it is terrible that you have cut down old growth cypress to make this bowl. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ask him whether any lumber was used in the construction of the house or apartment he lives in. Or the fence around it. Does he have a fireplace? How does he feel about paper?

Oh, he's only worried about old-growth cypress. No, he's only worried about posturing, and trying to make you feel bad. I wouldn't worry about it, or bother to argue with him.

A True Believer. True Believers are everywhere. Their whole purpose in life seems to be trying to make you feel bad or look bad in front of others. You either have to ignore them or have a snappy comeback such as: 'What would Ghandi think about your attitude?'. A good place to find snappy comebacks is any of the books by Stephen Potter particularly 'One Upmanship'. IIRC, one of his favorite retorts was 'But not in the south.' I believe that particular retort would have addled what little brain your inquirer had and he would have wandered off in a daze to another booth, or perhaps sought a quiet place to nap.

LD

A study should be done to see if "green" people are actually more green. The last "green" president took a delegation of 7 jets to Australia for his vacation and a trade mission to Asia took at least $200 million in travel costs.

Derek

Hi Glenn, He sounds like the guy who disses all Lawyers (substitute his favorite hate subject), until he needs one. Then it's the old some of his best friends are (repeat previous substitution) cop out.

You should have told him that you had to cut down all the trees in the hammock to kill the bears robbing the bee's honey combs. Assure him not to worry as you used most of the wood to distill shine and make divining rods to dowse for gas, oil & water,.... but then, the cruel and unusual punishment crowd would be after you. BTW, did he like your bowl or will your finish destroy all the ozone in S. Georgia?

Turn to Safety, Arch

Fortiter,

Hey Alex, Why don't you do a little research on the subject before you form an opinion? Or are you one fo those tree huggers that thinks a deer shouldn't be shot because it's cute, or pretty. Gimme a break. What you don't know is that the deer population would starve to death and possibly become extinct if it weren't for the hunting season. Besides, about 99.999 percent of the people that hunt actually eat it!

i don't think killing a defenseless animal is much of a sport. now, if the animal can somehow kill you if you mess up, that's something.

let me get this straight - you say the deer population will starve to death and go extinct if we don't hunt and kill deer? Are you serious? There is a deer population problem. If we don't hunt the deer, some will starve. but they won't all starve, and they won't go extinct because of underhunting - that's just not the way ecosytems work. A hard winter with waaaayyy too many deer could easily lead to the detah of a huge number of deer and you would see a wildly varying population, but not extinction.

I am not a hunter, and I don't like fishing either, but you are free to hunt and fish anything that is in abundance. And you can maybe make yourself (and some others) feel better by saying "they would starve anyway".

I think deer shouldn't be shot because the wolves need something to eat - you aren't one of those hunter/rancher dudes that thinks wolves are bad because they eat the cute little lambs, are you???

(please note sarcasm in the above post)

Has nothing to do with tree huggers, hunters, houses or anything else. Has to do only with the fact that some people with low self esteem try to build themselves up by tearing others down. It wouldn't matter if it were cypress trees, pearls, diamonds, or plastic trinkets. They'd find something to criticize. They are the same people that if you said, "Isn't it a beautiful day" (and it was 75 degrees, sunny and balmy outside) they would find something about the weather to complain about. Any comeback will only fuel the fire and encourage them to tear you down more. So just smile at them and wish them a good day and go on to the next customer. And remember that their problem is THEIR problem and not yours, so don't get hooked by their argumentativeness.

Earl

"Tom Storey" wrote in news:16Cgd.58679$nl.5596@pd7tw3no:

Yup.

Hank

"william_b_noble" wrote in news:byEgd.69376$ snipped-for-privacy@sam.nntpserver.com:

Always wondered what I was. I must be a wolf because I like to eat cute little lambs.

We are overpopulated so badly with whitetail in our area that we may lose our eastern white cedar. The deer feed so extensively on the saplings that they are killed before they attain a height sufficient to hold foliage out of reach of the deer. The browse line is obvious as you drive the roads.

Of course there will come a time, if left unhindered, that the deer will starve and weaken in huge numbers because they cannot get the thermal cover or nourishment of the cedar during a bad winter. Disease will take most if not all the survivors in an area. If there is sufficient population elsewhere, they may drift in before the cedars can escape, if not, the "balance" of nature will have been reasserted.

Hunting by license allows holding the herd to the carrying capacity of the land. Less worry about extinction. Eldridge and Gould in their presentation on punctuated equilibrium would be a good read for a skeptic. As many species have gone extinct in isolation as have evolved - if not more.