cross stitch lovers: to grid or not to grid?

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About a month ago I started this cross stitch:
http://www.123stitch.com/item/Silver-Creek-Samplers-Promise-of-Spring-Cross
-Stitch-Pattern/12-1083

It looked simple and quick, but I made so many mistakes on that big snowfla
ke on the right I ended up having to rip it out three times...the third tim
e I ended up ripping the linen so bad I had to THROW THE PROJECT OUT. In ov
er 20 years of stitching that has never happened to me!

This experience gave me pause, and I decided to looking into gridding my fa
bric (I've never done it before). It was horrible gridding on linen and I t
hought I was going to go blind. No matter how careful I was I ended up one  
hole off, and after five hours of this frustration I gave up.

I think I might just grid the snowflake part and not the entire linen when  
I try this piece again. I honestly wonder if gridding takes more time and e
ffort than ripping out mistakes or starting over.

Do you guys grid? Do you do it on linen? I used the below tutorial for lear
ning how to grid, but do you have any other suggestions to make it easier?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk6mWyo4z10&t=1s




cross stitch lovers: to grid or not to grid?
I never grid. To me it takes too much time from actual stitching. I am more
 a "relational" stitcher, that is I check to see that my stitches are where
 they belong - this stitch is 2 spaces to the left of this stitch and 1 spa
ce above that stitch.  I also find it helpful to enlarge my pattern, especi
ally if it's a complicated one and to highlight the stitches that I have do
ne. I love the Sampler you're doing.  In fact I've debated about getting it
, but my Stash is growing out of its containers as it is!  

Pat in SJ

Re: cross stitch lovers: to grid or not to grid?
On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 1:59:55 PM UTC-6, snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.net wro
te:
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re a "relational" stitcher, that is I check to see that my stitches are whe
re they belong - this stitch is 2 spaces to the left of this stitch and 1 s
pace above that stitch.  I also find it helpful to enlarge my pattern, espe
cially if it's a complicated one and to highlight the stitches that I have  
done. I love the Sampler you're doing.  In fact I've debated about getting  
it, but my Stash is growing out of its containers as it is!  
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Thanks for the reply Pat! How do you blow up the charts? Do you scan it in  
the computer and use some kind of software to get it bigger? My scanner is  
so ridiculously complicated to use I don't know if I can manage it.

If only there was a way to enlarge the *linen* holes. I'm doing this piece  
on 32 count and even with magnifiers on it's tough. I've always been a rela
tional stitcher as well, but sometimes I get into trouble when there's a lo
t of stitches hanging out in open space (like in this piece).

The first time I sewed the snowflake I put in in relation to the word "spri
ng," but I had that word two stitches off. So I ripped it out and resewed i
t in relation to the words "its," but then had that word one stitch off. Th
e third time I had the snowflake in the right spot, but screwed up the inne
r design of it.  

Anyone who can manage to grid 32 count linen should receive some kind of aw
ard, and probably has bionic eyes.




PS Is your stash getting too big? That's never happened to me. ;)

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On 2/20/2017 2:33 PM, Violet Stitches wrote:
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Your local public library may also have a photocopier that enlarges  
(says the librarian in the group :) ).

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I'm nearly 63 and still stitching, currently on 18 ct aida.  I  
definitely don't have bionic eyes! LOLOL!

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BWAHAHAHAHA!  Love it!

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On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 1:04:52 PM UTC-5, Violet Stitches wrote:
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lake on the right I ended up having to rip it out three times...the third t
ime I ended up ripping the linen so bad I had to THROW THE PROJECT OUT. In  
over 20 years of stitching that has never happened to me!
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fabric (I've never done it before). It was horrible gridding on linen and I
 thought I was going to go blind. No matter how careful I was I ended up on
e hole off, and after five hours of this frustration I gave up.
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n I try this piece again. I honestly wonder if gridding takes more time and
 effort than ripping out mistakes or starting over.
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arning how to grid, but do you have any other suggestions to make it easier
?
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I tried gridding a couple of times too. I didn't like it.

I enlarge my patterns now. Try going to a copy place like Kinko's or some p
lace that makes business cards. They will most likely have a printer that w
ill be able to enlarge your pattern.

I also tried stitching on 32 count linen a couple of times over ten years a
go, when my eyes were a lot younger. I decided that 28 count was fine enoug
h for my stitching to look like a painting from 10 feet away. So that is mo
stly the count I use everything, including my long time WIP, TW "The Castle
".

The sampler that you picked does look beautifully simple and quick. Don't s
tress so much over your stitching. Someone once told me that when people lo
ok at my artwork that the pattern will NOT be around for them to look at. T
here fore they won't see any mistakes or changes that I've made to the patt
ern. They just see the beautiful artwork that I have made with my own two h
ands.

Stash grows out of the bins!!!
Maybe that's why I'm always buying more bins!!! LOL

Dawn

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Thanks for the suggestions, Dawn. I'm sure I'll be able to find some busine
ss in town that will have a printer on which I can enlarge patterns. Maybe  
even Staples or someplace like that.  

I normally go with 28ct too...after this ordeal I think I'm going to give u
p 32ct in the future. It's not worth it if stitching is an exercise in frus
tration. I love the look of projects done on high count fabrics, but my 43  
year old eyes are in the throes of middle age changes, and I don't think it
's for me anymore.  

You bring up something I've been working on for a long time; giving up perf
ection in my stitching! I've been challenging myself for a few years to lea
ve in some of my errors if they aren't too obvious (this usually entails pu
tting the project down and looking at it with fresh eyes later). The spacin
g of that snowflake mistake was too obvious to my tastes, but I have to adm
it, I'm not sure anyone else would have pointed to it and screamed, "error!
"

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On Monday, February 20, 2017 at 4:34:15 PM UTC-5, Violet Stitches wrote:
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ness in town that will have a printer on which I can enlarge patterns. Mayb
e even Staples or someplace like that.  
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 up 32ct in the future. It's not worth it if stitching is an exercise in fr
ustration. I love the look of projects done on high count fabrics, but my 4
3 year old eyes are in the throes of middle age changes, and I don't think  
it's for me anymore.  
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rfection in my stitching! I've been challenging myself for a few years to l
eave in some of my errors if they aren't too obvious (this usually entails  
putting the project down and looking at it with fresh eyes later). The spac
ing of that snowflake mistake was too obvious to my tastes, but I have to a
dmit, I'm not sure anyone else would have pointed to it and screamed, "erro
r!"

Just because you're off a stitch or two doesn't mean it's an error.
This sampler looks to be quite large, with nice large letters. Maybe that s
nowflake would look better if it had more room. Maybe you could totally mak
e this piece your own. Enlarge it and frame it in little snowflakes!!!
Relax, look at the picture and let your creativity flow...with the snow. LO
L

Dawn

Re: cross stitch lovers: to grid or not to grid?
Thanks Dawn...more creativity and less stress is always a great goal when it come to stitching. :)  

Re: cross stitch lovers: to grid or not to grid?
On 2/20/2017 1:04 PM, Violet Stitches wrote:
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The only time I gridded my fabric was a "stained glass window" with
How Great Thou Art.  It really helped with the half and quarter
stitches. It's the cover piece for my album on rctnp  It was only
28 count.  Can't imagine doing that on 32.  I find at my almost
Medicare age that I'm using my mother's Dazor magnifying lamp more
and more.

So nice to see activity in rctn.

Nancy

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Nancy, I saw your piece when I was scrolling through the photos...you did a
 great job on it!  

I sit in my chair with my high intensity halogen lamp blasting light onto m
y linen, and magnifying glasses *on top* of my regular glasses. (I would li
ke to warn others not to put your magnifying glasses on top of your head wi
th the hot lamp blaring down...I actually set my freaking hair on fire doin
g that!) I'm so impressed that anyone over 40 can stitch at all. I never an
ticipated eyesight being such a problem...oh the nativity of youth.  

Does anyone here stitch on Aida? I've only used linen for many years, but I
 wonder now with the eyesight problem if it'd be worth it to take another l
ook at Aida. I've seen some really pretty Aida's online but have never both
ered actually buying some and trying it out.

What's your verdict on Aida: cheap and ugly, or a decent fabric for our sti
tching?

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On 2/21/2017 8:58 AM, Violet Stitches wrote:

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Aida has its uses.  I use it for patterns that don't use a lot of  
partial stitches, for whimsical designs and for those where you don't  
see the background fabric at all.  I mean, what purpose does it serve to  
use that nice fabric and then cover it all up? :)

And there *is* cheap aida and quality aida.



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One more question Joan...What count aida would be the equivalent to 28ct linen?


Thank you to everyone for your helpful comments!


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Oh my gosh, I just did a search on 123stitch.com, and they have Aida in gorgeous hand dyed and opalescent colors. I had no idea you could get Aida in anything other than white or cream. This opens up new possibilities!

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On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 8:41:59 PM UTC-5, Violet Stitches wrote:
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orgeous hand dyed and opalescent colors. I had no idea you could get Aida i
n anything other than white or cream. This opens up new possibilities!

I use it for certain patterns, it just depends how detailed the pattern is.
Years ago, I found some yellow, green and pink aida at a store. My boys wer
e little at the time and into Pokemon. I managed to find some patterns of P
ikachu, Jigglypuff, and Bulbasaur. The patterns looked like coloring book d
rawings so I used the colored aida fabric so that I just needed to stitch t
he outline of the character in black. The boys loved them.

You could try stitching something small, like a bookmark. I stitched a book
mark for my youngest son, can't remember what count the fabric was, and whe
n I was finished I had it laminated. He still has the bookmark to this day.

123stitch.com is a wonderful website and it seemed like everything that I w
anted to buy was on sale...including the Raven Queen. I plan to frame the p
attern because it's too beautiful to put away in one of my stash bins.

Dawn

Re: cross stitch lovers: to grid or not to grid?
Dawn, I looked up Raven Queen to see what you'll be stitching...it's quite  
the piece! Here's a brief look on youtube of some who finished it, if anyon
e is curious:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYipPb0MdUE



As I was digging through my stash fabrics tonight I came across a tiny piec
e of Aida called "Blue Blizzard Opalescent" by Wichelt. I have no idea why  
I have a piece of aida in my stash as I haven't sewn on it since grade scho
ol...I don't know if it was sent to be by mistake years ago or if a shop in
cluded it as a sample, or where the heck it came from. It was a *gorgeous*  
pale blue with a multicolored opalescent sparkle running through it...defin
itely high quality. They had it on 123stitch so I ordered it for my "No Win
ter Lasts Forever" project (see here if you forgot what it looks like:  htt
p://www.123stitch.com/item/Silver-Creek-Samplers-Promise-of-Spring-Cross-St
itch-Pattern/12-1083 ).  

Being that this pattern is more whimsical and not detailed at all, I think  
Aida will look great. I'll be able to grid it easier and my eyes will be so
 happy for the rest. You can get an idea of what the fabric looks like in t
he below link, but it doesn't show the beautiful sparkle.

http://www.123stitch.com/item/Wichelt-14-Ct-Blue-Blizzard-Opalescent-Aida-F
abric-10x18/3706-5169Y


Thanks to everyone for commenting, and helping me find good solutions and n
ew possibilities!

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From the Strawberry Sampler I just received an adorable pin cushion project
. Then I looked at the linen...holy crap, it's 40ct. I've never even worked
 on 40ct before. Guess I'll go blind after all! See it here: http://www.str
awberrysampler.com/detail.cfm?ID=18174

Re: cross stitch lovers: to grid or not to grid?
On 2/21/2017 9:37 PM, Violet Stitches wrote:

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That is the beauty of rctn!!!! :)

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On 2/21/2017 5:45 PM, Violet Stitches wrote:
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That would be 14.  The count refers to how many threads per inch and  
typically you stitch over 2 threads on linen...28 divided by 2=14.  32  
ct. would be equal to 16 ct.  Some designs (Heaven & Earth's *beautiful*  
designs, in particular) are stitched over 1 thread, which is why they  
can get such intricate details.  The face on my Fairy Grandmother (by  
Lavender & Lace) is done over one and really brings it to life!

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Happy to!!!

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On 2/21/2017 7:38 AM, Nancy Spera wrote:

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I've always loved that design!

As I was going through your pics, I saw the SAL we did in 2009.  I did 4  
different colors and they sat in my stitching cabinet for years.  I  
finally put them together as a kleenex box cover (they were the perfect  
size) and they're now in my bathroom!  I had to stitch one more for the top.


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It suuuuure is!


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On 2/21/2017 4:39 PM, Joan Erickson wrote:
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Hmmm.... I know my SAL and several other version are in my finished
but unfinished (you know what I mean) pile.  Your idea of a Kleenex
box cover is a good one.  I've got one my mom did many years ago and
now all the Kleenex boxes are too big for it.  Perhaps that would
work.  Need to unearth them.

Nancy

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On 2/22/2017 7:39 AM, Nancy Spera wrote:
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On the piece for the top, if you omit the floral part in the center it  
is just the right size for the hole.  It wasn't really all that hard  
putting them together, either, iirc.  I just overcast the edges with the  
perle cotton.  I really should take a pic of it, come to think of it...

Go for it!

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