Cross Stitch to Needlepoint conversion question

I have a pattern and fibers for a StarBright Christmas picture which calls for 32 ct. linen. I would prefer to do this in needlepoint instead. Can I use 16 ct. canvas instead? Will the animals and Santa still be proportional or will they be shaped funny? (I've never converted from cross stitch to needlepoint or vice versa...)

Many thanks for any and all advice/suggestions/comments.

linda

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Linda Franklin
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It's an exact conversion.

Any XS chart can be used for NP (and vice versa)

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Karen C - California

This advice is almost true. Any cross stitch chart can be used as given for needlepoint in tent stitch on mono canvas *as long as the chart uses full cross stitches only.* Partial crosses can't be duplicated on mono canvas; you have to either omit them or convert them to full tent stitches. Also geometric shapes that employ diagnols -- diamonds and circles, for example -- never look quite even in tent stitch; the slant of one diagnol will always be smooth, its opposite jagged. This is not a problem on naturalistic designs, but can be annoying on repeat patterns and the like.

HTH, Annie

Jul 26, 12:50 pm, Karen C - California wrote:

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AnnieExperiments

Good points, but....

You can change the stitch on the NP, you can stem stith around to smooth a curve, etc. Same with geometric shapes - instead of filling the area just with tent stitch, if you wish, you can chane to a stitch that will give you the shape - even as simply as doing a gobelin or mosaic type stitches. But, you're right - the conversion isn't exactly "exact" .

Ellice

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ellice

Y'all know by now that I can't/don't do counted work. I thought she was asking about was the size of the design: "I have a pattern and fibers for a StarBright Christmas picture which calls for 32 ct. linen. I would prefer to do this in needlepoint instead. Can I use 16 ct. canvas instead?"

In my universe, if the original called for over 2 stitching, then working on 16 count canvas might result in a similarly sized picture. Does that work in your universe too?

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anne

LOL - but you do gorgeous stuff & who cares about the counting.

It does kind of convert - but sometimes really well, and sometimes a little of. But, for people that do canvas work they can sub some stitches in place of tent to compensate and not have jagged edges, etc. I'd think this is right up your creative alley! And basically works in my universe.

Some designs will clearly say - charted for XS and NP. For the most part - if it's all XS it's fine - with some minor burps of edges. But, with partial stitches, you need to be a little creative or accept some difference in the detail of how things will look.

Personally, when I do canvas work it tends not to be just tent stitch. And right now I have geometrics on the mind, as I'm going to teach a piece in the fall (over a few months) that is all interesting geometric stitches . For the curious - this is the link:

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we're offering it in 4 colorways (I'm working up some sample stitchesin a Jewel tone right now). Jewel tones (deep blue & purple), Earth Tones,Christmas (based on Watercolors Cardinal Red) , and a neutral, lesspepperminty than the original - Watercolors Rose Quartz. There are a lot ofdifferent threads involved - so it's been fun. I have to order the Valdanioverdyed rayon for each of these groups. ellice

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ellice

I sit corrected -- in all likelihood she wasn't asking about size but about how the design itself would look on canvas.

I just returned from what I had hoped would be a restful stay at the New Jersey shore. I won't bore you with the many, many, many, many reasons I will never, ever go back. Cutting to the chase, the walls in my sister's condos are covered with needlepoint of the painted canvas or high end kit variety. All were done in tent and basket weave using perl cottons. Although I liked the subject matter, imnsho, some were really ugly with a lot of jagged edges and extremely unsubtle shadings.

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anne

LOL - I've seen what you're talking about. Beauty, eye of beholder, etc. It can take a little more effort or creativity with stitches to deal with some of that. And, well, different people read canvases differently - hence the stitch painting thing. Where the painter has colored the intersection with what should cover it - not the vertical or horizontal thread exactly - as most people think - who don't do a bunch of NP. I did a little piece for the other shop once, a jewelry case cover, dragonfly - lovely - in silk& wool blends, some perle cotton, etc. But, I hated every moment at first of stem stitching on canvas to get the curved shapes. But, the ability to do some couching of threads, layering - gives you freedom to avoid the jagged edges - if you're a bit adventurous.

OK - enough - now I'm feeling guilty about all the stuff I need to do.

Ellice

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ellice

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