A question for lampworkers

May 05, 2004 51 Replies

Wow, that'a real poser! I can't really answer it conclusively, because no matter what I say, there will be a "yeah but...". For example, I could say that encased, plunged florals are more time consuming than stacked dots, but then, there are dots and there are dots... so I can't really say that.

I can tell you that one of my encased florals with vines takes me only slightly longer than one of my ocean waves beads of comparable size, and part of that is fine dot placement and manipulation of the glass. Every step of adding or manipulating glass adds to the time, and time adds to the price, so yes, for me, difficulty relates directly to price.

As an example, beads that are simply a single base color rolled in frit:

Step 1. Melt rod & make base bead Step 2. Roll in frit, melt smooth.

Whereas encased florals are more like this:

Step 1. Make a striped, encased stringer for vines Step 2. Make a stringer for petal base color Step 3. Make a stringer for petal top color Step 4. Melt rod & make tiny base bead Step 5. Apply vine stringer, melt smooth Step 6. Encase, melt smooth Step 7. Apply 3-4 sets of 3 to 5 tiny dots of petal base color Step 8. Apply petal top color, melt smooth Step 9. Spot heat each petal cluster, plunge centers Step 10. Apply small dot of clear over plunges, melt smooth Step 11. Apply final encasing layer, melt smooth.

My ocean waves beads:

Step 1. Make a stringer for doing the twists Step 2. Cut a small piece of silver leaf Step 3. Make base bead Step 4. Apply silver leaf; burnish on Step 5. Apply band of top color, melt smooth Step 6. Spot-heat and twist edges of top color with cold stringer Step 7. Gently fire-polish.

It has fewer steps than a floral, but step 6 is very time-consuming.

I hope that kinda, sorta helped answer your question. :)

-Kalera

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Diana Curtis wrote:

Yes, it did. Hearing the step, seeing the steps gives me much greater understanding of the processes. I knew they didnt come at the wave of a magic wand... but often you and the other lampers would speak of encasing.. or dots .. and I saw the end result without the inbetween steps. Thank you for taking the time to help educate me. Diana

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My personal arch-nemesis in glass is Alabastro Dark Periwinkle. You would cry if you saw this color, because it's so gorgous... and it shatters into frit the second I look at the flame.

-Kalera

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vj wrote:

Kandice, you should try EDP: just think of it as the pastel form of Rubino, and you'll be fine. You might want to avoid using in in beads with raised decoration unless you find you like the devit, though.

-Kalera

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Kandice Seeber wrote:

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from Kalera Stratton :

]My personal arch-nemesis in glass is Alabastro Dark Periwinkle. You ]would cry if you saw this color, because it's so gorgous... and it ]shatters into frit the second I look at the flame.

ouch!

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That's what opal yellow does to me...oh but I love it.

Ouch only if it lands in your lap or the fold of your elbow and you can't move too much because you don't want to lose the bead.

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "starlia" :

]Ouch only if it lands in your lap or the fold of your elbow and you can't ]move too much because you don't want to lose the bead.

i meant the shattering part. all that WORK!

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I think the best way to know how a lampworker does his or her art is to see them make a bead/marble/sculpture.

Oh, I know you didn't Carla. I didn't mean to imply that anyone here did that on purpose. I am just trying to get people here to see all points of view, that all. :)

I have it sitting out to try. :) It's calling to me. I keep giving it The Look. I work with rubino so well, maybe, just maybe, EDP won't give me as much trouble as I have seen it give other people. For those who don't know - EDP is Evil Devitrifying Purple - a nickname for Moretti Opaque Purple 254. A purple that is more orchid pink in color, and which becomes coated in a chalky whitish, uh, stuff after the bead cools even a little bit. It's such a gorgeous color before it devitrifies. It's purely evil glass. :)

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Kandice Seeber" :

]I think the best way to know how a lampworker does his or her art is to see ]them make a bead/marble/sculpture.

definitely! the only ones i've been able to watch so far are Nicole and Lynda, but a LOT of things started to make sense when i did.

[luckily, they don't mind answering grasshopper questions!]

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Mmmmmmmm! I love 254! I'm one of those who happens to like the devit But it can't just be random. I "apply" the devit in much the same way one would strike a color or reduce Iris Gold reduction glass.

Two examples:

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EDP has a lot of fun uses....mainly ways to exploit it's tendencies. It just WANTS to be etched! Working it with silvered ivory stringer then etching is beautiful. So is applying surface decorations then only etching the EDP. It also looks great encased with ink blue or dark lavender blue transparent. I use both for encased stringers, too.

KarenK

Ooh, I LOVE devit! I think it looks neat! You're absolutely right, though, it is a gorgeous color when not devitrified. But it can look pretty amazing when it is... just a different sort of amazing! :)

Kalera,

I don't know about Diana, but that was HUGELY helpful for me to make a mental image of what work goes into what y'all do. Thanks so much for taking the time to outline it so!

Alison

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Diana - someone just posted this on WC - I had seen it before, but boy has it ever grown! This has so much really good info, and lots of pics - it's just amazing. This should help with your questions:

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Yes; the devit can be just yummy in the right designs, such as your "Largo" series, and also on some organics. I find I can get the devit consistent and even by letting the bead cools lightly, and then just "kissing" it with the flame. You can see it bloom across the bead.

-Kalera

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That's so wierd! I have some big fattie Opal Yellow rods, and they are a bit shocky but no worse than EDP or Tequila Sunrise Coral.

-Kalera

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starlia wrote:

The rod shatters, not the bead. You get all sizes of shattered glass everywhere that can stick to you. I always wear cotton clothing. The bead will crack if you don't keep it warm enough.

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