OT:End of the love story

Well...my love story of 4.5 years came to a screeching halt on Thursday.

My SO who now lives in Indiana because of his school commitment was caught in the act...In SEATTLE, his old home town.

The short version....said he was going to a conference (he's an officer in one of his school's organization). Dates don't ring true...not lots of conferences end on sunday, 'cause students have to be back at summer session on monday.

Check the website for his conference site, 'cause he didn't leave me a contact number. Hmmm, no conference. Called his mom for the number and it's not in Minneapolis, it's in Seattle.

Call the number, female on answering machine, leave a message asking Matt to call me.

Calls me the next day, after telling her that "i'm just a friend". SHE and I talk, he's history for both of us...damn, I didn't get to him before the sex. The real audacity is that we have a wedding planned for August, he denied it to her, I sent her an email that he had sent confirming, and yet he still denied it. Pathological, isn't it? Okay, the real, real, audacity is that he had unprotected sex with her and brought a test result to prove he was HIV AIDS free. no, no. the real audacity is that when I asked him when he had been planning to tell me about it, his answer was I don't know.

He has agreed, though, to both of us, that he needs to spend time alone and enter some type of therapy.

I feel bad for him...he destroyed any possibility of friendship from either of us, but I feel good that maybe this will convince him that he needs counseling. I had always suggested it for other things (been in therapy for

30 years myself) and now, I think he sees that his behaviour is not just self-destructive (cause he certainly can't live a happy life like that), and he's never been alone.

It;ll be good for him, I feel like shit, but I will survive.

Thanks for listening. Lisa

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lgreene
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Lisa, It's better that you find out now before you get married. I'm so sorry that it happened. I've been there and know that it hurts so much.

Big hugs and lots of hot tea with toast and jam,

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Debbie B

Lisa,

I'm so, so sorry.

marisa2

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Marisa2

Good grief! I thought Spring brought out romance.. apparently not... what's the score today? 3 jilted in the last 24 hours? Did I miss anyone? Rejection sucks... but it's better than someone hanging on when there's no future in it. Fidelity is basic, without it, there is no relationship. It seems so simple, why does it end up being so hard?

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Karleen/Vibrant Jewels

Awwwwwwwwwww, Lisa. That stinks! I'm so sorry.

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Beadbimbo

Lisa wrote: snip>Well...my love story of 4.5 years came to a screeching halt on Thursday.

I swear to the gods I'm reliving highschool by reading about everyone's relationships ending! The guys in my highschool used to break it off with their girlfriends just before summer break, so they could "play the field." Don't these men know what warm, wonderful, loving women they are losing????? Apparently not.

Lisa, you have my warm n fuzzies.....and I agree with the PP...better now, than before the wedding! ~Candace~ your local hemp goddess :)

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Candace

Lisa - I'm so sorry. It's better to find out now than having been married to him. I was married to someone that ended up leaving me for a 17 year old. We had two small girls at the time.

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starlia

On Sun, 16 May 2004 21:18:20 -0400, lgreene wrote (in message ):

Oh Lisa - I'm so sorry. Do you need me to come to Waltham to help you feel better? I'm less than an hour away, much less if there are no police in sight.

Don't worry about him, shake the dust from your feet as you leave him, and move into a better place.

I know you feel like shit - that's only natural. Do not blame yourself, please. We all do things wrong in every relationship - heck, many of us married folks can't make it to breakfast without doing something stupid around our spouse. The little stupid things aren't the problem.

The problem is that this man is a liar and a cheat and was willing to go to extreme lengths to keep his two (there may be more) women thinking that they had a future with him. If I wasn't so pissed, I'd love to find out what part of him is so damaged that he thinks that this behavior is all right on any level.

Any behavior or blame he tries to dump on you pales into insignificance when measured against the fact that he planned on marrying you in a few months, while he was taking extreme measures to keep another lover on the side. When there is the inevitable big final blowup, please keep that in mind. He broke the core commitment, bitching about underwear on the floor or such is not even remotely equivalent.

Don't accept any "we're both at fault." Bullshit. It's like comparing a multiple murderer to a litterbug. Both are wrong - but the deeds are magnitudes apart.

Let me know if I can help. I can get there any day but Thursday (hospital day), and will bring whatever comfort I can possibly bring.

Bug Hugs to you,

Kathy N-V

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Kathy N-V

Thank goodness you found out before the wedding. Some people are soooo stupid, to think that their partners can't see when something is wrong. You are a smart woman, Lisa.

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Marisa Cappetta

Thanks Kathy, but I;ll be okay. And, if I REAlly need it, I'll come to Quincy...it'll be easier for you.

We actually had a lovely, long talk last night. I realized, as did he, that he is dealing with some strong addictions..to sex perhaps, love, lying...he certainly does not feel well about himself.

He is going to check into both group and solo recovery programs...he may even need some residential help.

I know that he loves me the best that he can...we just can't even think about being together right now.

He acknowledges the devastation to all 3 of us, and realizes that he absolutely needs to take care of himself.

It was so hard to hang up the phone last night, knowing it was likely the last time I would speak to him. He didn't want to either.

He is petrified of what he will find out about himself...can't say I blame him. A self-destructive person is one thing, but someone who is destructive of others is a different story.

I asked him if he would be calling Alex (his "friend") and he thought that he might. I suggested not...she has known him only 4 months. I'm not minimizing her pain, but less time in, might mean less time out.

It's sad to think that I really can't trust anything he says, but I do hope that he goes through with his programs.

Ya don't stop loving them right away...maybe ever.

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lgreene

Lisa wrote: snip>Ya don't stop loving them right away...maybe ever.<

Warning--Unsolicited Opinion Ahead:

I'll be honest--I am so glad you realize this. Too many people think that once the relationship is over...that's it, you're supposed to turn off the feelings and be done with it. But it just doesn't work that way. And it only makes it harder to move on if you're trying to stamp down those feelings, instead of letting it flow. I still to this day deal with my feelings for my firstborn's blood father. A part of me will always miss him, love him, regret not being with him. Not the man who emotionally and physically abandoned me when I was

17 and a half years old and 4 months pregnant with his child, but the man who made me daisy chains in the park...who took me to kiddie playgrounds at 2 in the morning, and the man who used to say, "How many ways do I love you? Let me see....One star....two star...three star....." No matter how many hurtful things he did to me, there was still that version of him that I loved, and it's that part of him that my feelings for may never go away. Realizing that you might have some tender feelings for this man for a very long time is an important step in your new direction, Lisa. It shows that you aren't wasting your energies with denial. *hugs*

~Candace~

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Candace

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roxan

There is a 12 Step program for sex addiction. Call AA and they can probably tell you who to call.

Let me suggest 2 books, by 2 favorite authors. Escape From Intimacy, by Ann Wilson Schaef Facing Love Addiction, by Pia Melody

Reading them should be useful for understanding what happened to you, and also to see how you are vulnerable to this problem, And also they would be a good start for your friend in understanding his behaviour.

Tina

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Christina Peterson

Thanks. He had gone to SLA (Sex and Love Addicts) during his first marriage. He will be going back, I imagine.

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lgreene

God I'm SO SO SORRY. Is it in the air? What is WRONG WITH THESE MEN???

Strength, sister.

-Kalera

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lgreene wrote:

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Kalera Stratton

Candace, you're an incredibly intelligent woman, and startlingly wise for your years.

-Kalera

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Candace wrote:

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Kalera Stratton

Yeah! What an asshole.

Yeah! AND he was indulging in unprotected sex. What an asshole.

Yeah! ~~ Sooz

------- "Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry." John Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance ~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links

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Dr. Sooz

I would like to gently, but strongly, suggest that you get him out of your life. Of course, it's totally up to YOU, no question about that -- but these guys don't change. They may get better, but they don't really change. Basic bottom line: YOU DESERVE BETTER.

This gives me hope. I'm sorry for you, though, you poor dear. :-(.....

~~ Sooz

------- "Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry." John Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance ~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links

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Dr. Sooz

Yeah!

(what an asshole he is though) ~~ Sooz

------- "Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry." John Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance ~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links

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Dr. Sooz

YEAH.

(what an ASSHOLE!) ~~ Sooz

------- "Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry." John Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance ~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links

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