I recently got my first jewelry sale,a nd she came back asking for more, but in orange. She buys for her teenage daughter, who has informed the BOTH of us that orange is the *in* color. I've always disliked orange, but my DH LOVES it, and now it's grown on me enough to be one of my favorite colors. I still can't wear it close to my face, though :o(
The other *in* colors are turquoise and purple...but those never go out of style, IMO ;o)
I agree, but at the same time, I think it's really important to remember that most people *don't* have these writing skills. The skills you refer to are considered advanced, and if you read your local newspaper (assuming you can stand to) you may notice that even college-educated professional journalists often lack those skills.
The people who gravitate to Usenet tend to be very eloquently literate. They can emote in writing almost like being there. Even so, there are misunderstandings. I sometimes think I'm the queen of such misunderstandings, since I have tended, in the past, to be hypercritical and even cruel when it comes to writing skills that don't meet up to professional expectations.
The Internet is a place of opportunity, and that means that as the field expands, more and more people with specialties will appear... and often people who are superb in one field are only manageably fluent in another. Can we really expect all our painters to also be great poets? It would be nice if all visual artists could afford to hire writers, but that defies the promise of the Internet.
To make a l> I agree totally. Writing is a different medium than talking, and word
I think creative people give a voice to their work. Beads and finished pieces speak with their artist's voice, and are loved for that reason, that this artist's work sings to you. Don't you find beads that beads or carvings speak to you (including one's own work)? Don't their color cords hit just right, even when they change palettes, change keys?
I am so glad that artists have niches. I am so glad that I know I will find a certain flavor of beads with an artist I love.
I'll go with that any day over color wheels and fashion dictates.
Tina
vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Christina Peterson" :
]I am so glad that artists have niches. I am so glad that I know I will find ]a certain flavor of beads with an artist I love. ] ]I'll go with that any day over color wheels and fashion dictates.
seconded!
----------- @vicki [SnuggleWench] (Books)
The reason I asked is that I have some "Gonzie beads", and labeled them as such. But I don't have the specific beadmaker's name so I can't properly credit them. So I'll just have to credit "Gonzie", I guess. But if they're all family it should be OK, I hope.
Tina
Yes! Apparently her page has been a work in progress and she has taken you out but yes, "Kalera Beads".
I'm not really talking about professional grade writing. In Usenet for example, we all have the opportunity to reply to posts and clarify our points. Also the regulars get to "know" each other. For example we all know if Sooz posts "HAW!" after one of our messages, it is a positive, not a negative. Emotions and humor are incredibly difficult to convey in print. Sarcasm is nearly impossible. To properly do that is professional grade writing. When writing an open letter, I think of my audience and how they will react. I would refrain from making a big long statement on a website that I haven't read "cold" at least three times. As someone else pointed out, even if you change it, it is liable to be out there for a long time.
There are no mistakes, only unexplored techniques
Thirded! I have been in business twice (once was my wife's book store) and there is no lack of genuine, well-meaning people who will tell you how to run your show. You can listen, but ultimately you have to follow your own instincts.
It's very much like having a baby. Amazing how all the "well wishers" and wannabe advisors just pour out of the woodwork when a new mom is around.
we have much in common, then Vicki--my mother always said I was "as subtle as a train wreck". Sarajane
Sarajane's Polymer Clay Gallery
Thank you Margie. That's very true, that quote--and I dislike brutality. When I first began to notice that not every one delights in picking things apart looking for the way it goes together, I began making a lifelong effort to be kinder in my approach, yet still satisfy a big part of my curiosity. Not every one welcomes disection!!
And yet, because Diane's page was "here" (and she wasn't) I jumped right in and picked it apart for the structural elements, though I still make every effort not to say anything I wouldn't say to her face---largely because the internet IS forever, and she IS able to see what I wrote. While it may seem "rude" to some to do critical analysis that Diane did not ask for---opinions on the page WERE asked by some who have seen it--and people talking about your stuff on the web is part of the risk of putting it there. Diane stated she never thought so many people would read that page...and therein is something we should all remind ourselves of:
Whatever you put on the Internet is being said in front of EVERYONE in the ENTIRE world, should they choose to notice, now or for the foreseeable future. If you wouldn't be comfortable repeating those words a hundred times in front of a Judge and Jury, a group of your professional peers, AND your mom and your children, then don't hit send, don't put those words up there. Sarajane
Sarajane's Polymer Clay Gallery
Yep. She took suggestions to heart which shows that she take what she dishes out. Well done, Diane.
You got that right! Let me know when you tire of it, lovey.
Also, hot pink, baby pink and light blue.
I bought some once - very nice beads - much prettier than the pics.
vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from snipped-for-privacy@aol.comeatspam (Sjpolyclay) :
]>of course, one ex just said i had the tact of a mack-truck. ] ]we have much in common, then Vicki--my mother always said I was "as subtle as ]a train wreck".
**grin** yep - that sounds familiar. i always figured sticking to the truth was easiest - on everyone in the long run. and i do realize that what is "truth" for me is not necessarily "truth" for someone else [ie: politics and religion]. i've tried over the years to stop and think first, and not be deliberately rude. but if someone asks for my opinion, that's exactly what they are going to get. and fundamentalists have learned the hard way not to try to preach to me.Jamie and Johnny, over the years, have decided they prefer it that way, and have actually come back and thanked me for it.
----------- @vicki [SnuggleWench] (Books)
vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from snipped-for-privacy@aol.comeatspam (Sjpolyclay) :
]If you wouldn't be comfortable repeating those words a hundred times in front ]of a Judge and Jury, a group of your professional peers, AND your mom and your ]children, then don't hit send, don't put those words up there.
oh, yes!
----------- @vicki [SnuggleWench] (Books)
Hi Again you guys! I bet by this time Monday I will be old news and there won't be much left to discuss about me...Or I hope, at least, that what is being said on this group/thread has improved. I have been getting lots of wonderful direct emails from Lampwork Artists thanking me for my Tips page. I just want to thank all of them and those of you in this thread who have given me a bit of your own support. I do say stupid things at times, and I try to stay away from the computer when I am feeling menancing, just in case. But as I said before, my site was a relatively unknown one before the link was added, and now I'm being dished up all over! It's like having company show up for dinner, and all you have in the frige is left-overs.....somebody coulda warned me!
So, you will be glad to know that last nite, while the family was upstairs watching t.v., I updated my page and tried to clarify things in a better format. I realize that my suggestions and requests don't fit everybody's needs, and each market and buyer is unique. They are just meant to be an overall guideline, and of course folks can take or leave the suggestions. I know there is such a variation in what one person needs to charge for a bead, versus another person. Some artists are retired or self-sufficient and do it for fun. Others do it for a living and need a certain amount. One Jewelry Designer might need 25 beads for a necklace, another might only want 6 plain spacers. That is the great thing about ebay-there is something for everyone!
One thought I had was, if I were a man, how would I have any idea how many beads it took to make a bracelet? I had an email yesterday from an artist asking me to explain the hole-to-hole measure thing. Some of this really doesn't make sense when you are only working with creating the beads and are not assembling them into jewelry. For those of you who do both, (make beads and jewelry)I am sure my info is repetitive and wordy and probably boring. But think back to when you first started doing what you were doing. Who explained to you how to crimp a bracelet? Or remember when you forgot to put enough bead release on your mandrel? Well, enough said, I just wanted to let you gals/guys know that I have tried to make my page more reader-friendly and less personal, and I hope it meets more with your approval. I truly value the friendships I've made with the artists I've purchased from and chatted with over the years, and I want you to know how much I value you as PEOPLE, friends, not just bead "suppliers". Enjoy your craft, it is awesome! Thank you all-have a nice weekend! Diane C/
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