OT: Statistics for Jim

It`s marked OT., Bruce, precisely because it HAS nothing to do with needlework . Thus you can

a) Not read them b) Delete them c) Set your newsreader to prevent them even from reaching you.

There are a lot of us most concerned about the situation, and one of our stitching members, unfortunately, is in the thick of it.

Pat P

" snipped-for-privacy@spambtinternet.com" ,in rec.crafts.textiles.needleworkwrote: and entertained us with

What sort of embroidery was it that you said you do ?

"Fred" ,in rec.crafts.textiles.needleworkwrote: and entertained us with

Thank you Fred for your usual well-backed up post.

My wife does cross-stitch and blackwork with an occasional bit of embroidery. She freely admits to being computer illiterate so I am charged with acquiring information etc for her when necessary via this very helpful newsgroup. My own hobbies include classical pipe organ music (playing it and listening to it), hand-built 4mm finescale model railway trackwork and computer software (I was a civil servant specialising in bespoke computer software before I retired three years ago)

Well if you were familiar with stitching you would know that when stitchers gather together, there is talk. I go to a stitchin every Tuesday, somebody needs assistance, everyone is right there, everyone busy on their stitching, the chatting starts and it covers every subject imaginable.

It was always thus, women (mostly) gathered and talked while their fingers worked embellishing household linens, making clothing or adding to it and talking.

So this is not the wrong place for OT talk, it was clearly marked OT, just set your reader to skip OT subjects and you needn't be bothered with it. However, don't tell this stitching circle which is the more modern adaptation of what used to be, what it is we are going to do!

"Well-backed up post" indeed!! I think not. I wont comment on the rest of the garbage Fred wrote, but the best evidence I saw on the incident I left in, was the damage was caused by a Palestinian explosive device left on the beach, targeting Israeli commands who come ashore. And it was not in the plural. There was only one explosion.

Well said, Pat, and every one else who commented in the same vein!! If I had a Canadian dollar for every post like the one Bruce wrote, that I have read on rctn, I could go to my LNS and have enough S.E.X. to last me a year. I would put Bruce's alternatives another way.

a) Leave rctn altogether b) Learn to killfile c) Learn to ignore them. I recommend c).

Show us the articles that you feel show Fred is in error - rather than what you think.

That's a paradox!

You got the original post going with your request for statistics, now you claim they should be ignored.

Aha Yes i forgot FRED Pakistan , Afghanistan, Kosovo are al very close to your country , your friends and family are daily threatend by their rockets , suicide bombers etc,,,, The only difference is your country can deffend itself far away from where it`s own citizens live. The Other difference is that you keep your journalists further away from the real happenings. Here it is Next door to all of us ,,, this is a small country if someone gets shot on one side the echo resonants all over the tiny country. mirjam

The power station was blown up AFTER the kidnapping and killing of our boys, The tragedy on the beach, was declared bt the Palestinian autorities themselves as being caused by some explosive materials , in use of Palestinian militias. The girl told all that her father picked up something. mirjam

And in all this time ,, rockets flew over part of our southern village , killing children and grown ups as well. In Shederot hundreds of Kassams Rockets are falling.... But this of course isn`t interesting to you .

mirjam

Fred gave an ******EXTREMELY****** biased account of what has happened in the Middle East. It is not that Fred is in error on all of them, but merely he has been so selective that the net result is that his comments are garbage.

Touche(with an acutre accent on the e). However, I dont ignore the posts, but I am sure there are lots of rctners who are not the slightest bit interested in what I asked for, and, hopefully, they will ignore the thread.

Thank you Pat , for your kind remark . As to Bruce, May i invite you to see beautiful Haifa , Spend a day in my youth town Nahariya,,, [ hard sole shoes are advised] . I have been discussing many things with people here over the years. What is your trouble, you are not targeted by any rocket , nore are you flamed verbally by anybody .... so ????? mirjam

I disagree. The quoted articles are not lies so therefore whether you like them or not, you are not able to dismiss them as 'garbage'. If they are such 'garbage' point us to facts that disprove his articles that he quoted, that make you decide your opinion is not garbage.

I do wish people would read what is written. I never said that what Fred wrote was wrong, or lies or whatever. I said it was biased. That is it presents only one side of the story in a ***VERY*** exaggerated way. This sort of rabble rousing I feel is garbage. If I attempted to answer each and every biased item Fred wrote, it would take up far too much bandwidth, and be a pretty useless exercise anyway.

You make it clear the articles were truthful so it is more a case that it is a truth that is not palatable to you. I believe you only want to hear the stats that please you, not the ones that conflict with your view.

You`re wriggling, Jim - why don`t you just admit you have no real answer!

Pat P