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If the people living there in Buggesworth agreed to the change it is ok , but the people who live in Beth El haaven`t agreed to a change ,, That said thank you for this explanation, about such an interesting name . could you also explain the origin and meaning of your Orkney ???? mirjam

ps Trish if you hate so much the idea of using Hebrew in your prayers ,, i advice you to STOP using the words Hallelu-Yah and Amen ,,, PURE HEBREW words ,,, mirjam

You say "Hallelu-Yah", I (we?) say "Hallelujah"...

Using the same line of reasoning you could argue that the inhabitants of "London" did not agree that their city could be called "Londres" by the French. The name Orkney as it comes to us today is simply a corruption of the islands' Old Norse name - Orkneyjar. Pronounced "orc-nee-yahr", the name is generally taken to mean Seal Islands - the Norsemen's interpretation of the islands' older name. However, the Ork- element predates the Norse interpretation by centuries. First mentioned by the Roman writer Diodurus Siculus in the first century BC, Diodurus referred to the islands as the Orchades, a name echoed by the Roman geographer Pliny, who calls them Orcades. Pliny added that across the Pentland Firth on the northern tip of the Scottish mainland was Cape Orcas - a location that has been suggested is Duncansby Head in Caithness. Away from the classical scribes, the old Gaelic name for Orkney used by Irish historians was Insi Orc and simply meant Island of the Orcs. The orc element, meaning young pig, is generally thought to refer to the wild boar. Thus we have the Islands of the Wild Boar. This has led to the theory that at one time a predominant "tribe" in the islands - possibly Pictish - had the boar as some form of tribal totem. It is interesting to note that the early Norwegian settlers in Orkney referred to the chambered cairn Maeshowe as Orkahaugr which could mean The Howe (Mound) of the Orcs. However, it could equally derive from Orkis' Howe, where Orkis was the name of a person. As mentioned above, when the Norsemen settled in Orkney, they interpreted the ancient orc element as orkn, their word for seal. The added the suffix -eyjar meaning islands and the islands became known as Orkneyjar - the Seal Islands. The name was finally shortened by later Scots speakers, who dropped the last syllable of the Norse name, leaving Orkney. (Source )

Patiently: Mirjam, where did I say I 'hated' using Hebrew? I simply said it *suits me* to use my native language. See, it's kind of easier for me to think and pray in the language I know. Can you explain to me what's hateful about that?

#(%&%^^$@#(&#&$% *WHAT* 'hateful words'? List them for me, will you? Hateful words are ugly and I don't use them. Where have I ever said I 'hated' anybody? I'm waiting for the list.

Wonderful! Please do continue to be people of the book! I have no problem with that! Never have, never will! Just don't ask me to take part, OK?

I'M NOT JEWISH!!!

You've done it again, dear: made a mistake in your reading of English. I was using a figure of speech ironically and you have failed to see the irony. Is that hatred too?

Yeah. And we anglicise it. So what?

Rubbish. If I wanted to spout a stream of hated at you, I think I'd be aware of it. There'd be a lot more adjectives in everything I've said for a start. No. I'm just disagreeing with you, but you're incapable of responding to a simple disagreement. To you, disagreement = hatred and in my book, that's not the way it is.

When did I ever tell you not to say that Jesus was a Jew? Of course he was a Jew. I *agree* with you on that! What are you on about?

Sorry. Christianity was 'sown' when Jesus Christ died and then rose from the dead. I don't think the Greeks were there at the time, but I could be wrong on that score. *Were* there Greeks at the crucifixion? At the resurrection? I don't know...

I have no problem with historical facts. History is its own witness.

Anyway, it's probably time we stopped this nonsense. I don't feel like cutting you any slack because your posts are so difficult to follow. I find it frustrating to try and converse with someone who fails to understand my language as much as I fail to understand hers. Please do feel free to reply to this, but I won't carry it any further. It's just silly!

Be warned, Dawne: a lot of those roads are unsealed!

Do you go to Climax often???

I've saved it off for use when needed. And mailed to a whole host of buddies C

I did.

BUT

DS has started training with a buddy and I dropped him off at 4:30 PM - what were they up to now???? And I had to wonder just what the other two were bringing home from the hockey shop for new skates. (and it was a bargain Vapor VII's for $25) C (headed grocery shopping soon - no fruit left, no snack veggies left and almost no milk left)

But are they waxed?

Nope - just can't bring myself to do it.....

R, D, H....

Nah, the Romans occupied Israel at the time of the crucifixion. I'm not sure that the Greeks ever took it, unless she's refering to Constantine who I don't think qualifies as a Greek. Anyway, Christianity spread when the Roman Emperor converted and moved his capital east to what he called Constantinople. He sent his mother to Jerusalem to look for the relics of the cross.

Elizabeth

"Trish Brown" >>

Muttering to herself, given certain events that were to have occured this morning and didn't---not so often as I might like.

Dawne

Then of course, there is Newfoundland - Cupids, Heart's Content, Little Heart's Ease, Conception Bay, Placentia Bay, (plus Joe Batt's Arm, Blowmidon, Lushes, and Witless Bay).

I sooooo want to go to the 'rock' for a visit. Gee - I could stop and see Sharon and Sheena on the way!

MargW who lives in a province with place names like Coboconk, Kashagawigamog. Etobicoke, and Onaping.

"MargW" wrote

You must have seen those gorgeous Tourism Newfoundland and Labrador commercials with lovely green scenes and homey people--and then some of those great place names appearing in the corner. They were wonderful.

Dawne

I just googled Woy Woy and find it has an annual festival to honour Spike Milligan. A worthy endeavor.

Dawne

Aren't those great ads? And I love the one about the flat earthers believing that NFLD is one of the four corners of the world. Everyone I know who has visited has absolutely loved it.

We are talking about sometime taking the bikes and doing a trip across from PEI.

MargW

"MargW" wrote

There is a gorgeous ad currently that has a woman hanging quilts on a clothesline overlooking a gorgeous sea view (just to get things round to needlework in a small way). AND it concludes , after viewing the quilts, "not all art is hung in museums"

Dawne

You forgot Come by Chance NFLD

Bobbie who was stationed at NAVFac Argentia many many years ago

There could have been a few around, on their travels (wasn't Luke a Greek, or at least Greek-trained, physician?), but it was Romans who ruled. AFAIK, Paul is credited for spreading the gospel to the Greek communities directly after the crucifixion. (Corinthians, Ephesians, etc...)

Sue