While looking for something else entirely, I came across the "Kali" tiling pattern generator for Classic MacOS. It creates patterns based on the 17 different plane symmetry groups. Within about five minutes of initial tinkering with it I came up with this:
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which looks like it ought to have potential as a quilt design, albeit not that easy to machine-piece.
I couldn't get Kali to run on the Classic environment on MacOS X.
The software (along with other things that run on other and more modern operating systems) is at
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Patti
Ooh! that's beautiful Jack. I'd love to have a go at it. May I try? . In message , Jack Campin
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Show us a picture when you're done?
We're just finishing off a version of this, which I described a while ago. Not as straightforward as it looks:
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This looks doable if a bit weird:
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But you can easily generate designs that look neat but would be insanely difficult to put together:
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==== j a c k at c a m p i n . m e . u k === ==== Jack Campin, 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557 CD-ROMs and free stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, and Mac logic fonts
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Patti
Kali4Star looks to me to be easiest to put together!
Everything is relative of course!! Perhaps I could try that one too?
If I manage to get anything sensible done, I'll post pictures. I'll just finish the baby quilt I'm doing, then have a go.
Thank for the interesting drawings Jack. . In message , Jack Campin
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Leslie& The Furbabies in MO.
This is a melon with a strip pieced rectangle on the sides. Not too bad other than matching the seams at the angles... and some partial seams.
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Not my kind of project, tho. Whew!
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Patti
How extremely interesting! I didn't see it that way at all. Isn't it wonderful how differently people see things. Fascinating! . In message , Leslie& The Furbabies in MO. writes
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Leslie& The Furbabies in MO.
Wah! I can't make myself see it any other way. The melons just keep jumping out at me. Pat, can you explain what you see? Please? Having studied your book I'm curious how your clever mathematically inclined mind sees it. ;-)
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Patti
First of all I saw it as a star with kite shapes in between each pair of points and diamonds at the sides! Then I could see a snowballed square with pieced rectangles set along the sides sewn with a partial seam. I can't see a melon at all >g< . In message , Leslie& The Furbabies in MO. writes
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I see it as a bunch of four-pointed stars with lozenges filling in the spaces between them. But those lattice patterns can always be seen in lots of different ways. Have a few more - all of them made out of simple block shapes but not lined up in obvious ways, with no seams running right across:
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Some of the patterns you can get look like they might be useful as qulting patterns rather than for patching:
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==== j a c k at c a m p i n . m e . u k === ==== Jack Campin, 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557 CD-ROMs and free stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, and Mac logic fonts
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Patti
Oh there are some more beauties here. Thanks Jack. What a find. I think I'll have a go at piecing a couple of them; but then I think I might set about a project of several of them - done with English Paper Piecing. I know there's no challenge then; but I have some lovely ombre fabric that would look gorgeous with these. Would that be OK with you Jack? I wouldn't be making them into a book!!!! Tomorrow I will make a point of checking out Kali tiling.
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[ tilings generated with the Kali program on an ancient Mac ]
Of course, go for it. Each one only took me a couple of minutes of mousing. Our version of the Kali2Squares.gif pattern should be done shortly and I'll post a photo (it's pieced, not bordered yet). I deliberately designed it to make the underlying structure almost impossible to work out at first sight. There obviously *is* a structure, but somebody used to normal block settings wouldn't immediately see the trick.
BTW, I got the idea for that quilt from a book - Grunbaum and Shepherd, "Tilings and Patterns". All kinds of wonderful stuff in it, and you don't need to read mathematics to see a lot of what's going on. Probably very expensive now (it wasn't exactly cheap when I bought it) - buying an old Mac just to run Kali would almost certainly be cheaper.
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Patti
Great! Thanks Jack. It will take a while; but it will be fun. I love it when the construction is hidden. . In message , Jack Campin
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Patti
It's you and I back to the floors, Roberta!! They are appealing aren't they. . In message , Roberta writes
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Leslie& The Furbabies in MO.
I have always thought of snowballs as melons- a melon patch block? Don't really recall where I got that name. So we saw the same thing. I had to look hard to see the kites and diamonds, but then found them. Yep, it's cool how different things jump out at us!
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Pati, in Phx
LOL, I'm with you Patti. Can't see a melon at all (but then, to me, melons are curved, not straight lines.) This one really doesn't seem to be all that difficult to piece, just time consuming, depending on the size you make.
The hex example also looks very do-able.
Friendship Ring is very similar to Jack's Chain. The major difference is substituting nine-patch blocks for squares of fabric. This would be an interesting pattern to vary with different small blocks in the squares. hmmmmmmmmmm... wonder if there is a way to show some "transparency" here?? Something to play with.
have fun, Pati, in Phx
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Pati, in Phx
Just did a fast google search on "Kali tiling" and got a site with a downloadable program for them. Available for both Mac and Windows. And in several languages. Neat, and I see some more time sink here.
Pati, > [ tilings generated with the Kali program on an ancient Mac ]
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Jack Campin - bogus address
But not, as far as I can tell, for MacOS X. Did you find one for that?
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