Need help from quilters.. Heart Quilt Blocks in trade for donation please read!
Aug 05, 2003 155 Replies
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Johanna Gibson
I don't usually do this, because I think people who email nasty things to people ought to have the guts to post them publicly themselves, if they truly believe in what they write. This is what Cheyne emailed me just now:
This is the work of a troll folks. Maybe she didn't start off that way, but that's what she is now. I'll killfile the rest of this "conversation" in the group and get back to my normal, Cheyne-free life. I didn't know everything when I was 22 years old either, but I didn't call people a bitch.
-- Jo in Scotland
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Nurse Ratched
Is that anything like GO NAKED? ;P
Nurse Ratched (remove "cuckoo" from address to reply) We'll all get back to normal if we put our nation first, But the trouble with "normal" is, it always gets worse. ~Bruce Cockburn
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Personally I don't know why they think that this quilt is advanced. I would say that it may be intermediate due to the different blocks needed and getting the layout right. The actual blocks themselves are easy.
I think the colors suggested sound great- which ones to be the background and which to be the "accent" color?
Good luck
Julie Richmond, VA
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Kate Dicey
I think I'm bashing my head against a brick wall with this one. It really doesn't matter what people said to you off the group - that's quite irrelevant to my point. You made an error and trod on peoples toes. You compounded the error with attempts to tell us we were wrong, and we are not. The charter forbids advertising IN ANY FORM, and offering thing for sale (that is, in exchange for money) is advertising. Let me quote your original post:
"Send a donation of one dollar, or whatever you wish, and I will send you a heart quilt block for each dollar recieved."
So, in what way are you NOT selling , for a dollar a piece, these quilt blocks? You are offering them in exchange for money: that's advertising a sale. It's forbidden by the charter.
The reason for the sale is also irrelevant.
I'm now seriously bored with trying to detangle the illiterate postings
- I got away from teaching English to avoid that - so I'm going off to do something more interesting, like frog stitching some zips...
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Sharon Harper
Yup! Rewarded myself plenty at the show Jayne and I went to a couple weeks back and am looking forward to rewarding myself at another in September and then all through our Holiday in Tassie (never realised there were so many LQS down there!
Ellison
Howdy! FAQs for Usenet Newsgroups:
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Including RCTQ. Ragmop/Sandy
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Cheyne
So thats the email you got from me huh??? I dont even know who you are... Nor did I send you an email...
Why would I call you a Bicth... and ask you to leave your group??? Secondly.. I havent been online since about 2 this afternoon.. I have been in class all night.. so the email never came from me... Thanks..
Let me know what the whole thing says.. send it my way... I like how people say if I am to apologize they would be open arms welcoming me and get off on a new start yet I get comments like this...
And why do I still post here?? I know a few people.. and recieved some great emails... from other people other than the "head hens", who dont want to say anythign because they dont feel like listening to the cackling.. dont take those words as mine.. they are from one of your own.. I choose to post here because I feel like I should defend my character... There are good people out there... other than ones who have nothing but nastyness tosay to me...
Logically make sense ... nope... dont throw stones.. I didnt write that... go ahead and post the whole email...
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julia sidebottom
clipped gently
Kate what charter? Like I said earlier I have may not have the same information on ng's as others. It would be nice that I am not totally losing my mind. ???? thanks juliasb
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Cheyne
Look lady.. I will be blunt yet again... This person doesnt have to show their face to someone who is offering to drag them in the street and beat them.. they dont have to be scared to ruin their character.. You can say mean words to me and call me a troll... *little immature for you dont you think?* You words just make you look ignorant, not me. I'm glad my posting makes you this angry.. and I am not even trying, I have just been asking for help... and YOU DID call me an ignorant Bitch... need I remind you of your email to me? I am not afraid to say anything about myself.. my age... anything.. yet you are trying to call out one of YOUR regulars to bitch at them also.. Who cares.. they exist... they dont have to show their face to you... Just know they exist..thats all that matters... That is for that person to reveal their face... not me..:)
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julia sidebottom
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John A.
It doesn't seem to be expressly forbidden in the charter (buried in here:
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but that iscertainly implied by a lack of mention of advertisements in the listof what it's for. It might be argued by some, though, that offeringquilty stuff for sale (or offering to buy) is in fact discussion ofquilts or quilty matters and so is allowable. The rationale offered for the chartering of rec.crafts.textiles.marketplace, however, implies more strongly that non-.marketplace groups in r.c.t are not for advertisements.
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Even if it didn't,I'd say the mere existence of r.c.t.m strongly implies thatbuy/sell/trade posts should not be made in the other groups in thehierarchy.
The above links were found in this Google search: ('charter rec.crafts.textiles.quilting')
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This information was not difficult to find, but not entirely intuitive for newcomers those who may not know they exist. Therefore I think some degree of forgiveness, and a little gentle guidance to r.c.t.m, is justified for first-time rule breakers.
The Earthlink news server I get this group from has messages going back at least as far as 6/15/03, and the only posts about the FAQ I see are from today. Perhaps a link to the FAQ page should be posted regularly, maybe biweekly or so?
JA - who finally read the other FAQ postings after composing most of this and knows it's a little redundant, but, dang it, is gonna' post this anyway!
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Loren in Seattle
Way to go Sharon
Loren in Seattle
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Sharon Harper
Thank you - although I wasn't tooting my own horn, or expecting congratulations by what I said. I simply wanted to point out that you can lose weight. If I did more exercise I'd prolly lose more. If I didn't occasionally "break out" I'd prolly lose more. But I'm doing it nice n easy, not banning different foods because they are bad. And I'm doing it as a diabetic. It is awkward trying to calculate how much food/insulin to have to avoid hypos. My specialist and I have worked out a rough guide but it still needs to be fine tuned - too much insulin and I have a hypo and guzzle anything in sight. Not enough and I go to sleep. So far so good....
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Philipoh
I'm trying to get clear on some of this topic.
As I read the quote from the charter that was posted on this thread, I don't see any "no selling/advertising" language. The "no selling/advertising" part seems to come from "ground rules" (made by whom? binding on whom?) at some later date. Or am I missing something?
The Usenet FAQ mention that advertising may be treated with disdain and is discouraged, but is not necessarily forbidden. There was even a mention in the FAQ that a brief, one-time advertisement would not usually be cause for abuse. Again, did I miss something?
As I reviewed this thread, it did go on quite a while, and got sarcastic and disrespectful, before anyone actually mentioned to Cheyne that her advertising was "against the rules." The conversaton among the RCTQ insiders treated these rules as though they should be universally known. A newsgroup newbie might not even know there are FAQ. (I have no idea how new Cheyne may be; perhaps she *should" have known better.)
I don't know if Cheyne is for real or not, but more clarity and gentleness on our part at the very beginning of this thread might have kept the heat down.
Philip
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KCK
Same here. I don't read the group for a week and have to catch up. :-)
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I reviewed the various threads too, using Google to help me "catch up" on what I'm reading here.
Cheyne is an unusual name, so it wasn't too difficult to do a Google search. At first, I was looking for connections to "our" (well, many other groups share in this) usenet troll to whom I'd prefer not to give credit (the old-timers know her well), as she is always willing to add to her growing portfolio of tomfoolery, so it is conceivable that the referenced email which Cheyne does not claim was the work said troll, but I digress).
If this Cheyne is the person she says she is (and not an impersonator), then I've just read a flattering (well, I think so anyway) article about her and a few of her peers from the web archives (originally from the Houston Chonicle back in 2000), about a young woman of 19 who formed a company to do something about the drug abuse present in the rave parties they enjoyed attending. This certainly fits with the entrepreneurial person we've met here, so her defending what's left of her Google presence, is certainly justified, as it will likely be read by a future employer unless she is lucky enough to be running the dang company herself.
Yes, that's probably a duel-edged swoard defense, but pretty much brings it all back around to the original theme. Hey, I'm not taking sides, just presenting what I've read.
And remember folks...whatever you write here will be here for your grandchildren and everyone else to read.
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Flossy
This thread seems to be going round in ever decreasing circles.............Im bored with it now. I think it might be the time to stop posting to it and perhaps it will just fade away.
Flossy Malvern England
***** Queen of Plaids ******
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AliceW
Hopefully, circling the drain!
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Charlotte Henson
Thanks! I don't really know. The black will obviously recede. How can I use that most effectively? I'm really still in the planning stages. I'm searching the web trying to find pictures of how others have done it effectively and see what I think "works". Will keep you posted! Thanks for the support!
-Charlotte
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Miriam "Mim" Spencer
where's Tassie?? somewhere I should know about??
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Cindy S.
It sure would - people would die from laughing if they seen me nekkid.
Cindy from MO
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