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Lia, Yes!! Do get it on Snopes. Your assessment is mild compared to what Merry Stahel wrote when Tobin's book first came out.

A woman in Racine, WI, was so taken with Tobin's thesis and the book that she created a whole quilt project using the patterns Tobin references. I saw the exhibit (at the Lemon Street Gallery in Kenosha, WI) in July. Nice quilts.

However, it's a good thing I was not asked my opinion of the thesis.

Nann in Winthrop Harbor, Illinois

Thanks for the note of support. The trouble with the diehard believers >comes from the fact that it is just such an appealing myth. I know when >I first read a review of Tobin's book I couldn't wait to read it. It >had everything-- quilts, oral tradition, good guys (escaping slaves) >triumphing over bad guys (bounty hunters). No wonder there have been >more books perpetuating the myth and even museum exhibits referring back >to the original premise. People WANT to belive something so appealing. > >In truth, the underground railroad was never as organized as we like to >think. There are tons of inaccuracies in the Tobin book. There is NO >corroborating evidence of any sort despite diaries, letters, WIP >interviews with former slaves. All we've got on the theory is one woman >who can no longer be reached who told another woman that it was part of >her oral history. And yet no one else seems to have heard of it until >they read the book. > >I keep wondering about writing it up for the Snopes website or if >Skeptic Magazine would take on an item concerning history, not science. > Better yet, I wish Barbara Brackman, who has written articles on the >subject and is such a fine quilt historian, would publish a rebuttal book. > >--Lia > > > > >
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If you go here, you'll see our discussion and my somewhat scathing review of the book:

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Also - in my "enthusiasm" to de-bunk, I said first one and then the other used a white sheet as a signal. The person who used it as a signal was Harriet Tubman, not Sojourner Truth. However, Sojourner was the quilter, I think. (Oh, Lord, now I'm confused...dang, I need to go read their autobiographies AGAIN!)

Merry Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once

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MerryStahel

What a thought! I'd never considered how people got articles on the Snopes web site. I'll look into it.

--Lia

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Julia Altshuler

I tried, but I got a "not found" message. I'm not sure if it is my system or some other trouble. I'm very interested in your review because I'm thinking calling Tobin's thesis an appealing urban myth and getting it written up on Snopes would be satisfying for me. (Or would you like to do it? I don't want to horn in on anyone's territory. Is it something that we all might do together?)

--Lia

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Julia Altshuler

Weird to get a "not found" for the archives. You went to google groups and did it? Well...here is the original, but not all the replys.

marcella

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The point is - WHY did no other slave EVER mention it in their writings or oral traditions?

If you've EVER done research on the subject - and TRUST ME, I have done EXTENSIVE research on slavery, and have access to lots of books...why did people like Sojourner Truth and Harriet Tubman, and Alan Pinkerton and countless other Underground Conductors NEVER mention this particular signal - when they DID mention OTHERS?

Barbara Brackmann is an historian. Not only did she write about Civil War quilts - she STUDIED the time period extensively.

Jacqueline Tobin is NOT an historian. She took ONE person's story as FACT. She has been UNABLE to substantiate it in ANY way, and OTHER historians have not found any evidence to corroborate her Master's Thesis paper, either.

Yep - the book was to get her Master's Thesis. And her story came from a RELATIVE of the slave, NOT from the slave herself. The person who TOLD her the story also DIED, before anyone else could talk to her about it. JT also had no taped conversations, only her own notes, which she took, because she said the woman didn't want to be recorded. Interestingly - the woman supposedly TOLD JT the story, so it could be SAVED FOR POSTERITY.

If you'd like to READ some REAL slaves' oral traditions - written down by the WPA Project in the early 1930's-1940's - when actual slaves were STILL alive - go to the Library Of Congress website, type in WPA Writer's Project and then do a search for SLAVE.

In addition - may I recommend the EXCELLENT Mary Chesnut diary, written DURING the Civil War, and including many passages on how her house SLAVE saved her life. Another good book is SIX SLAVE NARRATIVES -some of it written by slaves who were EDUCATED by their masters. Also look into the works of Frederick Douglass - educated by his master and later freed, to become a guest speaker on the issue or slavery in the North DURING the Civil War.

And I mentioned Harriet Tubman and Sojourner Truth - both slaves, both educated in later years, after being Underground Railroad Conductors - and both writing and speaking extensively on the issue of slavery. You will not find ONE instance where a quilt was used as a signal...and Harriet Tubman conducted more runs than any other slave...

Merry

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Marcella Tracy Peek

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