OT -- making rec.crafts.scrapbooks an official newsgroup

I have to vote NO also. We like it the way it is, small and comfy. It's sad when we lose members due to server problems, but if they want to find us google is always there. It may be a pain in the butt to some but it's better than nothing. I'm always amazed at the number of folks here when a roll call is posted. I can't believe April got like 80+ people on "the list". Funny thing is, I recognize every one of them. When we're talking it doesn't seem like there's near that many of us. I'd love for some more of our long time lurkers to come out and join in, but I'm not for going entirely web wide. I consider all of the folks here my friends and someday hopefully we can meet in person. It would get uncomfortable if we opened the floodgates to our "private" little group.

Katrina in KS

PS: BTW Devon, why now anyway?

Someone showed up in news.groups, tring to "help" and made an informal request that the group be made official; and because it was such a busy group, that the normal vote be skipped. The consensus in news.groups was generally in agreement (because it was such a busy group), but Devon volunteered to come over here and check out the feelings of everyone (because most people in news.groups can't get this group, as it is not carried in many places). Given the unanimity of everyone over here, it seems that this ends the whole debate, and nothing will be done (particularily as the original poster in news.groups isn't even an active participant here) unless someone makes a formal application.

The discussion, meanwhile, has been quite beneficial to the people in news.groups, to help them understand different views on newsgroups (they don't get many hugs over there ... :-(

Nick

Actually, Devin's a quite well respected regular in news.groups. This group is carried on Verizon, so the idea of it being restricted because of limited coverage is somewhat overly optimistic (especially since Google carries it).

Do check news.groups. A number of *.edu servers in particular follow the new group creation methods described there.

I am over this one. I think that everyone just about has said no and that we all agree on being a close little family owned operation rather than being took over by the major corporation.

No thank you i like things as they are

My name is Devin, and although I'm not a scrapbooker, there is something that I might be able to do to help out this group get to even more people.

Well said Mel, I absolutely agree! esther

particular,

I don't know why [outside] people keep chiming in about the legitimacy of these individuals (maybe it's to defend his honor) BUT I don't think it matters because we are not interested in becoming "official". We are as official as we want to be so it's ok if everyone is legit but it doesn't pertain to our group. Thanks anyways.

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As Nick said, someone came into news.groups upset that this group wasn't "official" and demanded that it be placed on the official list without going through the regular procedure. When serveral news.groups regulars explained that was not going to happen, he claimed that this was the request of the group.

If that were the case, then it would probably go quickly if someone who was a news.groupie gave a helping hand, and this interested me (I have at least one sister-in-law who has gotten into scrapbooks in a big way, and if she ever decided she wanted to read the group, I thought it would be nice for her to be able to find it easily).

However, by then this person's statements were starting to become a bit, um, contradictory, and it was revealed that he wasn't a regular. At that point, rather than watch a debate go on for days, I realized it was easier to come post here and see what y'all thought.

So far, the consensus has been pretty clear. :)

I don't necessarily agree with all the stated reasons for not wanting it, but I am not arrogant enough to think that all y'all are necessarily *wrong* in those reasons (I've been wrong before and I will be again), and I'm certainly not going to force some sort of RFD that y'all don't want. It would be a waste of time and downright unfriendly.

If y'all ever do decide you'd like to explore that step, drop me a note and I'll be happy to either help out or find someone who would. In the meantime, enjoy your little corner of the Net, and have fun scrapbooking!

Hi there! just added this group to the newsserver, it's only got posts back to Oct 21st. If there are many posts it will grow to around 4 - 5 months. This is mostly a test for propagation I want to see if it hits some other servers.

Sorry for the interruption!

-- Robb | snipped-for-privacy@shared-secrets.com | |

Devin - thanks but no thanks --- we like things just the way they are!!!

Maureen in FL aka Smilingtooo :-) SMILE BE HAPPY :-)

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Robb - and who are you? and to what server did you add us to? and who asked you to do so? - I may be out of line here --- but the last paragraph in your messages states "added this group to the newsserver"

--- would you please explain to the group what you mean by this.

Maureen in FL aka Smilingtooo :-) SMILE BE HAPPY :-)

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Sure

First, I monitor things to be sure changes worked, that's why I posted the message.

I added this group to the active file at our commercial newserver it was available at newscene, usenetserver and a couple others. I had a request to add this group from a customer and it's normal policy to add groups when asked. Some readers here get the group from outsourced news accounts at their ISP but it was missing on ours.

This is mainly the paid account arena, it wont have an effect on google groups or people who could already get it. You'll probably pick up a few new readers and posters as time passes, my wife likes it ;)

So how do I scrapbook all the nutty pictures I've collected from usenet over the years, most are not print quality. Ya'll have fun!

-- Robb | snipped-for-privacy@shared-secrets.com | |

Robb - thank you for your explanation and response. Maureen in FL aka Smilingtooo :-) SMILE BE HAPPY :-)

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