olden Singer industrial

The best site I know of for real industrial machines is

Admittedly, I do love their url.

You'll find the machine somewhere in those pages, and when you do, there will be information of use to your friend.

Thanks for the reply. From browsing google photos, I think that the machine is 1930's or 1940's vintage. < I didn't see any like it on your web link > John T.

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:>> Hi All ; :>> A friend recently picked up an old Singer industrial-grade machine :>> - industrial table - heavy steel base / thick wood top :>> - knee control to raise the foot :>> - walking foot :>> He wants to restore it to use for sail-boat sails or other such jobs. :>> < and to rescue it from the scrap metal bin > :>> I thought that someone here might have experience or web links :>> to share - much appreciated. :>> It has 3 count-em 3 serial / model numbers - on plates :>> front & back - not sure which is which is which .. ? :>> John T.

:>The best site I know of for real industrial machines is :>

:> :>Admittedly, I do love their url. :> :>You'll find the machine somewhere in those pages, and when you do, there :>will be information of use to your friend.

: Thanks for the reply. From browsing google photos, I think that :the machine is 1930's or 1940's vintage. : < I didn't see any like it on your web link >

What's the model? it would be on a plate on the left side of the machine head. Something like 111W105, for instance.

The model number is on an oval tag made of brass on the upright part of the machine. That is a start. From there I can tell you if it is suitable for the work you describe. Industrial machines are intended for one use, do it very well for long periods of time. Not all machines are created equal.

Thanks Ron & others who replied. I'll drop in & get the model number and do some more research. Yahoo Groups has a couple active groups for vintage Singer. John T.

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Did you check out the PDFs under the headings "Industrial Products" and then "Instruction manuals"? I found instructions there for a very old industrial machine that I used to own in that lot - that machine of mine would have been from either the 30s or the 40s. I gave it to a neighbour for repairing Horse rugs when I decided I no longer needed it.

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Ah - Hah ! Found it now - Much Thanks ! ... my Firefox browser didn't pick up the script for the "Manuals" link ! Internet Explorer worked ok. John T.

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Thanks Ron & everyone ;

That oval number is a bit difficult to read .. J6-41 ?

... the - 41 is clear ; 6 seems right ; J is a poor guess ..

The cutters web site has a " Class 16 " that looks the same ?

.. the file is " 16-133 Class 16 " & includes model 16-141 ? etc

.. perhaps this is it .. dunno.

The back of the machine has C3-1290 serial number ?

John T.

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16-41 perhaps? Light duty walking foot machine,

Thanks Ron - I suspect that is correct - I just found this website - link below - that has a brief description and even a photo.

John T.

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