Copy Attachments

Not that I know of except for commercial bowl production. There are businesses here in Missouri which crank out really poorly made walnut bowls by the thousands.

Bill

John Pilhoefer wrote:

"Bill Rubenstein" wrote: (clip) There are businesses here in Missouri which crank out really poorly made walnut bowls by the thousands. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Besides, I don't believe those machines are really copying. They are performing a set of programmed steps to produce a bowl. The characteristics of the bowl are probably chosen to make the operation feasible. Hand that machine a different shape to "copy" and it will be helpless.

Even spindle copiers are regarded as poor performers. Many turners have reported that they can more successfully produce duplicates by programming their brains than by struggling with the shortcomings of a copy attachment.

If you read the sales pitch, you'll find that some are capable of making shallow bowls. Limit is the travel of the cutter.

Of course, the bowl saver sets will produce consistent results. They ought to, as they basically duplicate the process by which bowls were made "back when."

The closest thing that I've seen to that would be a bowl corer..

would give you a uniform size and shape ad leave the creative part toyou... and produce more bowls and less shavings from large blanks..Yeah, I'm suffering from coring envy.. *g*

mac

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Bill, are those mass produced walnut bowls cheap yet suitable bowl blanks...or is that against the rules? In my wickedness and vice, I thought about re-turning some bowls and platters from Target & WalMart, but Far East wood is too identifiable and..... Oh the humiliation! if the public prefers original Target over my 'artistic upgrades'. :)

Turn to Safety, Arch Fortiter

Wouldn't that violate the moral rights of the original "artist" and set off a whole 'nother copyright thread?

Those bowls are thick enough to try to refine a reasonable shape out of them. Sadly they're cut with no regard to grain direction or color. I thought about doing just what you suggest every time I drove past that big "Walnut Bowls" sign on I-80. They are a heck of a lot cheaper than a bowl blank at the woodcraft.

Roger

Arch wrote:

No.

It would just embarrass Arch and there are no laws on that issue. Well

-- none that apply here anyway.

Considering the potential source of the wood material perhaps we should have a thread on "immoral rights" -- and all that stuff. :-)

Unless you wanna insist the copy machine is an artist.... LOL

I always said to people if you make a copy Michelangelo's "David" from a pile of crud, you still have the crud -- no matter the form.

Consider yerself humiliated you common Walmart copier you. ROTFLMAO.

Just to be serious for one mad moment...

Yes it is a violation. Assuming there was an "original artist(s). If it was something sorta close to what was intended by a CNC programmer who wasn't really sure (and likely did not care) what it should look like -- it's still a violation -- but you would be violating the butt of a joke

-- and who _would_ care?

Now if you threw yourself at the feet of the Walmart lawyers, confessed and insisted they prosecute -- to preserve your sense of morality -- I am sure they could get you on trespassing and make it stick if you barged into their offices without a formal invite.

...Or they could turn you over to their Taiwanese manufacturer -- who would then try to cut a direct deal and get rid of Walmart (the middleman) so they could make more money from you...

Whew! Got that of my chest. ROTFLMAO

There will be a short quiz on tomorrow's postings. :-))

Wonder if they got 'em here he muses...

"Roger" wrote: (clip) I thought about doing just what you suggest every time I drove past that big "Walnut Bowls" sign on I-80. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Where on I-80? I live within 1 1/2 mi of it, but it's kinda long. (Are you sure they're not selling gift bowls of wawlnuts?) :-)

The walnut bowl crank-em-out place in Missouri is on I-70 -- also pretty long. I live within a few miles of it.

Bill

Leo Lichtman wrote:

Sorry, brain cramp--it's been a few years. The place I was thinking of was actually on I-44, near Lebanon, MO, though there were also signs on I-70. Drove by it on the way to fishing at Bennett Spring. I don't know whether they made the bowls on site, but they had a very interesting barrel making operation there. Apparently produced a lot of the oak barrels for California wineries.

Roger

Walmart would probably encourage you to make lots and lots of bowls, since they are selling you the "blanks"..

mac

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Yep, took the tour. They do make the bowls there.

I imagine they make whiskey for those barrels, as the California estate types are only too quick to mention the "French" oak in their barrels.

Geez I was on a roll there.