Recently I had the pleasure of meeting with John Jordan and during the conversation I inquired about the "new" hollowing system he makes..He happened to have a set with him and I purchased it on the spot..That was a couple of weeks ago and today was the first time I had a chance to use them..All I can say is they are all John made them out to be, and maybe just a little understated by him..I really love them and I believe it to be a bargain at the price listed on his website...Great little tools and work well in the stewart handle..Not affiliated with John in any way just like to put in a good word when I stumble across something I consider to be really good..Rick