Poison Ivy

maybe some prevention? the lee valley liquid glove stuff claims to be protect you from lots of nastyness, I seem to remeber poison ivy being one of them. I think it makes it stay on the outside of your skin for easier washing off. in article snipped-for-privacy@news.verizon.net, Ecnerwal at snipped-for-privacy@SOuthernVERmont.NyET wrote on 1/19/04 6:20 PM:

From what I have read is that the main thing is that it be a detergent -- not a soap. Read some of the remedies in the URL I posted.

Yep. Detergent emulsifies oils better than soap, however it also rips away body oils, which is why we use soaps for ourselves, detergents for the inanimates.

OBTW Thanks for correction of my spelling of cashews.

ARM

Easiest, perhaps. But practical? Not for anything but very very light use and certainly not for the threads' original poster concerning moving wood logs. Those liquid barriers, unless you go for the industrial THICK, heavy, and movement restricting stuff which costs a fortune, isn't easy to find, and is just plain unbearable to use for any length of time, don't last when you're doing more than just pulling your daisies up. It's just not practical to slather yourself (or even just your hands) every few minutes when doing actual work.

For real work, you just have to cover up and take precautions unclothing and washing afterwards. Looks like that's what I'll be having to do from now on. No more rolling around in it.

- Andrew

As I was reading this thread, I'm thinking to myself, "Haven't any of these guys ever heard of liquid barrier products???" Leave it to the youngest of the bunch to come up with the easiest prevention. No oils on gloves to worry about, just wash it off and the oils go with it.

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September 11, 2001 - Never Forget

I speak from experience (field medical, laboratory, and lumber-jacking) and not theoretics or product labeling. It doesn't stand up.

- Andrew

First, I've never used the stuff. However, in my archaeology days I did a lot of research into the products and their capabilities, mainly because of an area I was potentially going to be working in.

According to information from the manufacturer, "Liquid Gloves" and the like form a sweat-resistant and abrasion-resistant barrier, on a porous level, rather than something like Anchor Seal, which is easily peeled off.

The products are _made_ for "real work" (protects against concrete burns for instance) and are available from outdoor and construction suppliers. While not as readily available as say...a pair of gloves, if you know your property has poison ivy on it, for instance, or if you're going to be handling wood that you're allergic to or whatever, you would likely purchase a bottle of it.

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Hi -

Generic term is "barrier cream" - should be available at industrial supply houses. One brand is "Gloves in a bottle"....

For poison ivy - "Roundup" works well, and can be used selectively (and is not harmful). An effective way to use products like this is to wear a rubber glove, put a cotton glove on top of than, and wet it with "round-up".... touch or squeeze the plants you want to kill, without worrying about overspray from a bottle....

Cheers -

Rob

Our cows liked to munch on poison ivy.

Robin Lee wrote: Hi -

Wow! The touch of death! I like that. Thanks for the tip, Robin.

ARM

So...

People who eat poison ivy are nuts; Dan's cows like to eat poison ivy; therefore, Dan's cows are nuts. Ergo, the source of Mad Cow, no?

_____ American Association of Woodturners Cascade Woodturners Assoc., Portland, Oregon Northwest Woodturners, Tigard, Oregon _____

Another thought...

Various dogs who've shared their companionship with me over the years would, at times, eat their own poop. Doesn't mean it's something advised for humans - well, there was that character in "Hairspray".

_____ American Association of Woodturners Cascade Woodturners Assoc., Portland, Oregon Northwest Woodturners, Tigard, Oregon _____

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned that there is a product on the market designed specifically to protect us from the ravages of rhus dermatitis. "Ivy Block" is FDA approved (which I believe means that it does the job at some level). I think that it binds with the oils that cause the rash, rather than just being a barrier cream.

I seem to remember reading a few years ago (before the product came to market) that the Forest Service tested it on fire fighters with positive results.

I've used it, but come up short of endorsing it because I still do all I can to avoid contact with the plant.

My two cents worth. Might be worth trying.

Bill

In college I had a friend that told the story of a guy he knew that made a poison ivy salad. His thinking was he would build up his immune system. Didn't work. Didn't kill him, but he apparently was sicker than a dog for bit...

...Kevin