? Which magazine?

The Brit mag, "Woodturning."

Also, "Woodturning Design is not about design. It's simply a projects magazine.

I could be mistaken, but what projects _don't_ require a design? I don't get why you guys persist in taking potshots at a magazine that is barely 2 issues old? If you don't like it, don't read it, but for crying out loud, why don't you let people make their own judgement on the relative worth of the thing rather than dismissing it. Clearly you have an axe to grind with them, since this is your second shot at them, in as many threads.

Besides, I would think that all of you world-class turners for which this magazine is a "rag," would be encouraging we lowly peons, [tug of the forelock, m'lord] to look at anything that would help us to attain your lofty heights of woodturning achievement.

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If you want to see what is in the US Magazines here are the links:

Woodturning Design Magazine

$19.95 for ayear's subscription. Magazine sent quarterly.More Woodturning $30 for ayear's subscription. Fred will send you sample copy for $3.75. He has backissues on CD and sells a years worth for $25 and shipping of $3.Hope this helps. I had a hard time finding the new Woodturning DesignMagazine. We have a tobacco store in downtown Portland that is carrying it.Also Fred Meyer's in the Northwest is carrying it. I found it to be prettygood. It is nice to have a variety of turning magazines available. I tend toget a bit of good out of all of them. Bob Darrah West Linn, Oregon

I could be mistaken, but what projects _don't_ require a design? I don't get why you guys persist in taking potshots at a magazine that is barely 2 issues old?

One would expect that a periodical, book, lecture, etc. named "Woodturning Design" would have primary emphasis on DESIGN and not simply be a how-to. The content should be the design of the project rather than the execution.

< snip> If you don't like it, don't read it, but for crying out loud, why don't you let people make their own judgement on the relative worth of the thing rather than dismissing it.

I don't read it. I'm not taking potshots. I'm giving an honest evaluation to someone who asked what it was like. They deserve to know that the title is not accurate.

Clearly you have an axe to grind with them, since this is your second shot at them, in as many threads.

Gee, I'm consistant. What a surprise.

Besides, I would think that all of you world-class turners for which this magazine is a "rag,"

First, experience and skill have nothing to do with it. The title is either accurate or not. It is NOT!

Second, you object to "rag"??? Here you are showing either your age or ignorance. Allow me to educate you. In the dark ages before all communication was electronic (yes, I know that that is hard to believe, but there was, nonetheless, such a time) magazines, newspapers, paperback books, etc. were printed on RAG paper rather than the much more expensive Bond paper. Rag is just shorthand for magazine, newspaper, or paperbook.

In short, I never said that there was anything wrong with the magazine, just that it's titled very inaccurately. Personally, I think it very well could be intentional in order to pump up their image. Even if not it's, at best, deceptive. Imagine buying Raffan's "Turned-Bowl Design" and finding nothing more than descriptions on how to turn a dozen bowls rather than the complete, thoughtful, informative, thorough discussion of design parameters and considerations that it actually contains. Someone asking about the content deserves an honest answer.

Sheez Owen! Reminds me of my days in the Navy, and Penicillin shots.

Well, I knew someone with personal experience in that area couldn't help but comment. ;)

Concerning rag paper, I have to confess MY ignorance was showing. A kind person who worked in the paper industry informed me that rag paper is an expensive type of bond paper and that the higher the rag content, the higher the quality. So I had it dead wrong. Nonetheless, it is used as a synonym for magazine, newspaper and paperback book (at least in all the places I have lived). And, in light of this information, rag must be a compliment rather than neutral as I thought.

Bjarte, tried to email you on this subject but the address bounced, any changes?

Hilsen, Peter Charles Fagg Freshwater, Isle of Wight, United Kingdom.

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