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Thank you David , this is very encouraging to hear. Sorry about server problems . Of course i am strobgly involved , and intimately connected to this pieces, they came from my guts, my dreams, my night mares and mostly from my life experiences.... It isn`t easy to expose them like that , doing it in Fibeart is easier, but your request is important. I also find that my works , speak to the many many others who sahred this Childhood experiences in other ways , and still so close.. And many find it easier to talk through my art to me about it all. The word plan is the the mysterious one, as the works seems mostly to grow of their own ,,, i only have to solve the technical problems , how to make them . The Hebrew word for Kudus is Tehila or Kavod ,,,, but looking at it this way reminded me of another word and i just my linguistic son what he thinks about it ,,,,, it reads /sound so close to Kadosh Holy , that it might be ????? one of those words that migrated into the English from the First Biblical translations ?????? thank you for this NICE letter

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118 cm high 172 cm wide , woven sideways , with a Linen Rope warp and weft. the background is woven in a hard gross and close twill, after awjile a big Red mouth opens , it has a spouts of Nylon rope with some black beads , [ looks like foam coming from mouth], The background slowly changes to various other weaving patterns, and the left sides ends with little braids knits etc as if it was torn bruttaly with cut sides. The wall is seen through the open mouth ...

-------- Childhood Talk started as a sampler/doodle cloth , I was always interested in those Letter samplers. But wanted to make a Hebrew sampler. thus i went to various sources recearched Hebrew [print] letters , drew a lot tried a lot and came up with `proper` sampler letters, i embroidered those on a light linnen cloth and levt them aside , when i started weaving my face i also tried to embroider my outlines on this cloth to the left of the two rows of the letters. The letters were embroidered in red xst , every leter is worked into a 10 x 10 square, i put in all 22 Hebrew regular as well as the 5 suffix letters , My face i worked with gray wools for my hair lines and eye brows , green for my eyes , red for mouth and pink for nose, on the right side of my face [ my left side ] some letters and open envelopes give strength to my feeling that i had more familiy in the post box, than in real life near me. {Several years later when i found the letters it became even more strong. Over the work three netted letters are machine appliqued saying N E E , no in Dutch , born in french and as it miracoulusly works out reading it from right to left it becomes SHESHAM = That there in written Hebrew, , on the left down side a latin Sampler stands on it`s side , and includes by the leters , in brown, a magen David , [ star of David] and thewords Marion,,,,, 1943 ,,,,,, and in a varigated browb to yellow Sans Nationalite Upper sides is worked with a blue blanket stich , sides have only a short side embroidery ,, underside is finnished with black ,,, W W I I < W W I I ..... mirjam

Thank you David , this is very encouraging to hear. Sorry about server problems . Of course i am strobgly involved , and intimately connected to this pieces, they came from my guts, my dreams, my night mares and mostly from my life experiences.... It isn`t easy to expose them like that , doing it in Fibeart is easier, but your request is important. I also find that my works , speak to the many many others who sahred this Childhood experiences in other ways , and still so close.. And many find it easier to talk through my art to me about it all. The word plan is the the mysterious one, as the works seems mostly to grow of their own ,,, i only have to solve the technical problems , how to make them . The Hebrew word for Kudus is Tehila or Kavod ,,,, but looking at it this way reminded me of another word and i just my linguistic son what he thinks about it ,,,,, it reads /sound so close to Kadosh Holy , that it might be ????? one of those words that migrated into the English from the First Biblical translations ?????? thank you for this NICE letter

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118 cm high 172 cm wide , woven sideways , with a Linen Rope warp and weft. the background is woven in a hard gross and close twill, after awjile a big Red mouth opens , it has a spouts of Nylon rope with some black beads , [ looks like foam coming from mouth], The background slowly changes to various other weaving patterns, and the left sides ends with little braids knits etc as if it was torn bruttaly with cut sides. The wall is seen through the open mouth ...

-------- Childhood Talk started as a sampler/doodle cloth , I was always interested in those Letter samplers. But wanted to make a Hebrew sampler. thus i went to various sources recearched Hebrew [print] letters , drew a lot tried a lot and came up with `proper` sampler letters, i embroidered those on a light linnen cloth and levt them aside , when i started weaving my face i also tried to embroider my outlines on this cloth to the left of the two rows of the letters. The letters were embroidered in red xst , every leter is worked into a 10 x 10 square, i put in all 22 Hebrew regular as well as the 5 suffix letters , My face i worked with gray wools for my hair lines and eye brows , green for my eyes , red for mouth and pink for nose, on the right side of my face [ my left side ] some letters and open envelopes give strength to my feeling that i had more familiy in the post box, than in real life near me. {Several years later when i found the letters it became even more strong. Over the work three netted letters are machine appliqued saying N E E , no in Dutch , born in french and as it miracoulusly works out reading it from right to left it becomes SHESHAM = That there in written Hebrew, , on the left down side a latin Sampler stands on it`s side , and includes by the leters , in brown, a magen David , [ star of David] and thewords Marion,,,,, 1943 ,,,,,, and in a varigated browb to yellow Sans Nationalite Upper sides is worked with a blue blanket stich , sides have only a short side embroidery ,, underside is finnished with black ,,, W W I I < W W I I ..... mirjam

Hi Mirjam,

As far as I remember, 'kudos' is based on a Greek word, which was mangled somehow in English. I'll look up the etymology later...

How do you feel in making these fiber art pieces?

Thanks for the new descriptions!

David

David My son wrote some interesting info in regards the KUDUS Kadosh question i asked

Every work comes from another story another need to let it out, sometimes i am dead tired , sometimes happy, at least 2 works ended a recurring nightmare ... mirjam

Excellent! Had you been thinking about those particular nightmares while you were working on the two pieces? Were they related somehow to what you were portraying in those two works?

Thank-you for sharing

David

David !!! Good morning

NO , i was not thinking , at least not conciously thinking about those nightmares, but once the works wer there in cloth !!! i very rarely had those nightmares anymore.

Thinking about it with later knowledge , yes !! some of the images came from those dreams , or from hidden memories. mirjam

Good morning Mirjam,

Thanks for more descriptions. And your experience of reduction of a certain nightmare after deliberately working with images and/or feelings from the nightmare reminded me of a recurring nightmare I had as a young teenager. Someone I knew often took my right hand into her mouth to bite it. One day after I woke from such a dream, I re-ran the dream movie forward until she was taking my hand with hers. At that point in my awake visualization, I started asking her questions - why are you doing this? Are you trying to say something to me? Is there something you want from me?, and so on.

i don't recall whether I had the nightmare ever again, or whether I repeated the exercise once again. at any rate, after either the first or second time doing this, the nightmare became history.

Thanks for more triggered associations Mirjam.

David