old spinning wheel

This is specially for all the spinners in the group

Just to make me life a little easier, I am posting the note I posted to all our Guild members as I wrote it. Hope that is OK

This story is about an old home made spinning wheel, that Otto fixed.

Hello all spinners:

Jytte, came by last Saturday and asked Otto for help with an old spinning wheel, that she saw at the Shawnigan museum. She told Otto that it was a very interesting wheel, and that she had never seen one like that before, however she could not make it work, was he willing to have a look at it. Otto went the next day and got the spinning wheel. It is a very different wheel from what we have ever seen before.

We might think that a Wooly winder is a great invention and the latest in hand spinners technology. Well think again. This wheel has an automated wind up, and was made around 1918.

The wheel is contained in a square wooden frame work, made from odds and ends that were available around the house, by a very creative craftsman. The drive wheel is made of solid wood. There is a second wheel or rather rachet, with a pall moving it along. It works some levers to move the bobbin along the spindle or axle, in and out of the flyer. It is the most inventive part of this wheel a very unusual flyer and bobbin assembly. The flyer is rotating in place with the bobbin sliding back and forth on the spindle, moving in and out of the flyer arms embrace, while they are both turning. This will automatically wind up the yarn that is spun. It is the most amazing thing to watch. There are many other interesting parts on this wheel, that I have never seen on any of the wheels we use.

The wheel is from the beginning the twentieth century. It comes from Saskatchewan. It and was home made, by French Canadians who had moved to the United States to work in the textile mills. They were not very well treated and at that time they were drawn back to Canada with the promise of free land on the prairies.

I think that some of the ingenious constructions of this wheel, where learned in the textile mills in the States. It would be interesting to see, how the spinning machinery worked in those places, just to compare notes

I took some pictures of the wheel, to keep a record of how it was put together. Otto took it in the basement and worked on it for a couple of days. It was obvious that the wheel had been moved around quite a bit with some of the pieces not put back together the right way, and some pieces missing altogether. With some new parts and a bit of cleaned all the turning parts, giving all a drop of oil, the wheel was ready for a trial run. After a couple of bad starts, with several adjustments made, little tightening here and there, It is spinning very nicely.

Naturally you are all welcome on RCTY to come and see this wheel. LOL Just take out your brooms and come on over. Otherwise I have just put these on my website, go have a look there.

Els

Reply to
Els van Dam
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Oh my Els!!! What an amazing piece!!

Thank you so much for sharing it with us:))

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Reply to
Ophelia

Hi Els, how interesting, I've seen similar to this, but as a skein winder from bobbin to skein, the skein is put to the paddles but not with a bobbin on it...thnx for the photos Otto has made a very good job of it.

Thnx so much for posting this....

hugz cher

Reply to
spinninglilac

Ophelia, it is always great to see Mechanical tools, home made from the past. It is a great machine and whoever made it for his wife did a fantastic job with very little materials, that all look recycled. When Otto took the wheel home from the little local museum, there was an article about the people and the wheel with it. There were two old photographs,showing a woman sitting spinning, behind a similar or this wheel,. Someone like you and me. I love stories like that, from that long ago. Otto had a great time playing detective on how the parts had to go together to make it work. Fun time and the icing on the cake was, when we made it work and I spun some yarn on it.

Els

Reply to
Els van Dam

It is fun to share, as well as that maybe one of you may have seen a similar wheel somewhere else. You get a better picture on how things were that way.

Els

Reply to
Els van Dam

How interesting! I've never seen one like it before. And I must say, you and Otto are a wonderful team.

Reply to
The Jonathan Lady

Oh yessssssssssssssssssssssss:))))))))))) Absolutely:))

You may or may not know that my work is in Social History. Whenever anyone comes with a donation I give them the third degree with bright lights and torture to get every last ounce of history about the object:))

O xx

Reply to
Ophelia

You Certainly do Els.

Reply to
spinninglilac

Thank you Ophelia, for your kind words. That sounds like a wonderful job. I love doing the research and I am always amazed how much informations is out there. I think Aaron and Mirjam or also on that trail of wanting to know the ins and outs and whys...Great group for sharing.

Els

Reply to
Els van Dam

Thank you Jan, so from a distance, we look great, but watch out when we disagree.....LOL.

Els

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Els van Dam

Thank you Cher

I have done some more spinning on this wheel, because Otto wants to give it back to the museum with half a bobbin of yarn on it as well as a small skein to go with it so it looks like it is a working wheel. Maybe I have to teach him how to spin...LOL I got some Churro (Navajo sheep) roving sitting around, it spins up beautifully.

Eld

Reply to
Els van Dam

Thank you Elsje for the compliment ,, and yes i am doing loads of research in several subjects ,,,, It needs lots of energy and time , but has a fruit or two ,,, mirjam

Reply to
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen

Oh Wow, well do some pics Els, get Otto to take a few of you doing it etc...can't wait to see this one in action...very fascinating..

weaving today, hopefully my ''shed'' is gonna stay better now that I've removed the cross sticks...only a rug, so I'll beat the shed into submission..lol hugz Cher

Reply to
spinninglilac

Oh No, does sparks fly?? LOL now there is a cure for this you know, if you don't speak to one another you can't argue...lol

hugz cher

Reply to
spinninglilac

Getting the answers in odd places is the fun part.....and also that you always meet lots of interested kindred spirits along the way.

Els

Reply to
Els van Dam

A picture of yours trouly spinning behind the old wheel is on its way.

I love the remnant weaving on your loom. very nice, it looks like you had the upper hand. Your weaing will will push me along to get to the rug weaving from the Romni March fleeces I spun last year. One white and one black. Hope to dye the white skeins.

Els

Reply to
Els van Dam

Ask Mirjam, the Dutch and Jews as well, (of which we are both are members), are very argumentative...even when there is no argument, we will find one.....LOL. Naturally Otto more so than I....LOL. Sparks do fly the odd time...LOL Must be part of a good marrigage. it will be 50 years next year....Amazing

Els

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Els van Dam

It's gonna be a bit bigger than a remnant when it's done, it'll be 70ins long, an is 38ins wide.. I'm not that keen on the colours, but as it is for a present I have to do the colours needed, which is peach and rose pink, so I'm using three strands of peach or pink, started with peach, for a header and two ins, then dropped one strand of peach and picked up one strand of pink, then dropped another strand of peach and picked up another strand of pink then it was all pink and gradually dropping strands and working the other colours in to give the marble effect.. .. I'll break the back of that today and get another 24ins or more done, then it'll be just 22ins or more if I can get any more out of it .. then twiddle the ends and finish.

I steam my rugs Els, being as you can't wash them, is that what you would do? to sort of set them I mean, talking of set, the set for this is 4EPI rug warp.

hugz Cher

Reply to
spinninglilac

Well done you two, fifty years...goodness...how time flys when you're having fun...LOL

hugz Cher

Reply to
spinninglilac

How do you go about that,steaming a rug when you have a big rug? I put mine in the bathtub and walk or waulk them, adding soap and water. Hang them on the wash line and hose them clean, let them dry on the line. So far it works well. In Toronto we had a factory that was willing to take hand woven pieces for finishing. They did ask that you sew old sheeting to top and bottom so they could fasten the material or rug to the loom without doing damage to the weaving. That work very well. Here I use my own washing methods, beeing far away from city factory facilities.

Els

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Els van Dam

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