Actually, with Depression limiting my output, I don't know if I ever could make a living from jewelry, which is what "professional" means. But I do want to sell high quality work on a more limited scale. And I want to be able to buy things wholesale.
Tina
vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Christina Peterson" :
]Actually, with Depression limiting my output, I don't know if I ever could ]make a living from jewelry, which is what "professional" means. But I do ]want to sell high quality work on a more limited scale. And I want to be ]able to buy things wholesale.
ah - like me, then. did you ever make a final decision on a name? you were still working on it when i had to go missing for a while.
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Peterson's Pieces. Pete's pieces of wood and I will have la piece de resistance. And if anyone can tell me if I spelled that right, I would appreciate it.
Tina
vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Christina Peterson" :
]Peterson's Pieces. Pete's pieces of wood and I will have la piece de ]resistance. And if anyone can tell me if I spelled that right, I would ]appreciate it.
well, since it is more than one Peterson, i would change it to Petersons' Pieces.
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Somebody mentioned my name. Thanks Kathy for those kind words.
Maybe you will have noticed I keep out of these discussions when things get heated. With my heart problems I have to keep placid but it nearly destroys me when I hear some of you going at it hammer and tongue.
Another reason is some of you ladies are much cleverer than me with your words. I swear blind that you have eaten pages of dictionaries for breakfast. Maybe it is because being English we are renown for saving breath and only using one word instead of wasting breath on dozens.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but I like to think that if I cannot say anything good "I say nowt at all". Also another thing is, "A soft answer turns away wrath".
I sometimes write things then I delete it before I send it.
Please ladies shake hands and bury the subject and make me happy. Life is too short as Kathy reminded us of in an earlier post.
Love, peace and hugs to you all. Good morning Shirley
:) How can we argue with that? (((((Shirley))))) Good morning! I am going to bed now, so good night. :)
-- Kandice Seeber Air & Earth Designs
Kinda like me. I still describe myself as a beginner.
Perhaps my line should be a hobbyist that sells occasionally?
Mary
Please post where I said that. I said I made some pieces that probably had clasps that are base metals (now that I know there's a difference!) but I didn't say I was going to keep buying and passing junk to people. If you read that somewhere, I'd like to know where.
Mary Close To My Heart Consultant
short as Kathy reminded us of in an earlier post.<
Amen, Shirley!
Carol in SLC New JustBeads auctions:
I already replied to this in email but since it is on the board I will reply here as well:
I didn't know the reason behind buying more expensive parts until I posted and I was trying to justify why I was using what I was. I did not want to start out with money invested in something that I found I didn't enjoy doing nor had any talent for. So my first shopping excursion was to Michael's for jewelry "stuff" and I have since broadened my horizons to internet sites and a local bead store but initially I didn't make that investment. I have a total of 4 necklaces and 6 bracelets - I am not flooding the market with junk jewelry!
That statement describes my personal jewelry buying preference - it was not a statement about the items I buy to make jewelry with. I buy (to wear myself) what I like the looks of and don't inquire as to the components. Maybe I will become a more knowledgable shopper from now on when it comes to my personal jewelry but up until now, I haven't been. And so far the people who have expressed interest in my jewelry have not asked either - they just like what they see. That is all I can speak to at this point.
Yes I am......this doesn't mean that I don't find value in learning new things and changing what I am doing. I have already taken a couple of pieces apart and replaced clasps but you haven't given me a chance to say that. If I choose to make every single necklace from elastic cord and seed beads that is my choice and no one else's. You can say you don't like it but it is my choice and that is what that statement reflected. I appreciate sound advice but not I don't appreciate being responded to as if I have nothing to offer and I don't appreciate conversations about me among the other NG members stating that I am making junk, I don't care about what I make, I'm a flea market seller and so forth. Boy, talk about a lack of support for a newbie.
Mary Close To My Heart Consultant
I stopped today at the local bead store - the only one in the Toledo area. Kinda surprises me that we only have one since it seems to be a popular hobby and Toledo is a pretty large city but be that as it may, I asked some questions of the owners about findings and such (that we have been "discussing" here for some time now). I was told that sterling and vermeil (sp?) is good but that there is absolutely nothing wrong with using base metals - that they hold up for years. They did recommend against using clasps from Michael's which I found out myself when the one and only toggle I had snapped while I was working on the piece. So according to them, the components I have been buying and using are perfectly acceptable in the beading world. I did purchase some sterling silver toggles today and a couple of my pieces are being restrung because I don't recall where I got the clasps - I had them for some time before I started this hobby. (Back about 6 or more years ago I thought I would get into this and just never did). So I appreciate everyone's input and I have learned a *number* of things due to this thread, and I intend to continue beading and enjoying this hobby - and maybe even enjoying some portion of this newsgroup if I am still welcome here.
Mary Close To My Heart Consultant
Actually, there are two other bead stores in Toledo, though Meant To Bead (where I'm guessing you went) is the largest. Personally, I have found that I can get sterling beads and findings wholesale (online, catalogs, etc.) for about the same price that I can get base metal findings at a LBS. Another option to consider is pewter. It works well with the style of some designs.
vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Tink" :
]Another ]option to consider is pewter. It works well with the style of some designs.
i love pewter.
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Me, too. Pewter and copper are both reasons why I disagree with the notion that only precious metals are 'good enough' for jewelry components.
I've made my own S-clasps using G/F wire, SS wire, brass wire and copper wire. *They function about the same*, IME.
More experienced metal-workers may have a different take, and if they do ... I will certainly pay attention and test what they say for myself. But as far as I can see from a limited experience, the seem to be equally strong, equally functional and equally easy to produce once you know the technique. That technique is truly the same for all the kinds of wire. They might vary a bit in softness and workability, and how much work-hardening they need, but it seems to me, only a bit.
I'd trust my finished work to any of them. And find all of them appropriate for -some things-, but not others.
Deirdre
I believe that pewter and copper are considered 'base metals'. They certainly aren't considered 'precious metals', and there doesn't seem to be a middle ground between the two designations.
How does brass affect you? I agree with avoiding plated stuff for most things. It wears off too easily, and looks kind of scrofulous when it does.
And nickel-plate will destroy anyone who is allergic. Nasty stuff. I'm very allergic myself. Finally figured out why the buckles on leather watch bands 'got' to me, kinda like a poison ivy outbreak ... and these days I instantly buy a stainless steel expansion band to go with any watch that doesn't come with one.
How about stainless steel, btw? I have seen some brushed stainless buckles and jewelry pins and such like -- more in the past than recently ... that look just gorgeous to me. No eating of the skin, no tarnish, no plate to wear off... Sounds like a workable 'base metal' finding to me.
And niobium... also not 'precious metal', but very attractive and ultra hypo allergenic...
Deirdre
In what way?
Deirdre
vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from Deirdre S. :
]In what way?
they're a lot harder and stiffer than the sterling. and they scratch the minute you touch them. i'm going to have to get another pair of pliers, just for "dipping", but i don't know if dipping round ones is going to work.
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vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Tink" :
]Niobium is an element, like gold is an element: ]Niobium = Nb
well, that explains the price! thanks, Tink!
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What a great post, Kellie! It's good to hear these things from someone who works in a bead store, and someone who has been doing this for awhile.
-- Kandice Seeber Air & Earth Designs
The dipping isn't permanent. You are scraping at it too hard. But it does tend to work for a longish (maybe a couple of hours?) session when you are working with softer metals.
Sorry the niobium is being a bear. Maybe someone else has worked with it and has tips...
Deirdre
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