Pseudo Health Update - OT

I hope that's all it is! Something you can recover from.

Good luck,

Helen C

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Tink" :

]I'm just glad I decided to have him come back and clean it. It very well ]might have saved our lives.

THANK ALL THE GODS AND GODDESSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

----------- @vicki [SnuggleWench] (Books)

(Jewelry) ----------- It's not what you take, when you leave this world behind you; it's what you leave behind you when you go. -- Randy Travis

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Whew, Tink! It is very likely that it has. And I'll bet you're right about it being the cause of all your symptoms!

We had something similar happen a couple of years ago and we replaced the furnace before winter. The guy told us that the next time we had turned it on might have been our last! Scary!! That's also when we found out that the builder had put used furnaces in our house when it was brand new. Jerk.

Carol in SLC My newest creation (12/5):

I hope this is the answer to all your health issues... whew... thank goodness ! Diana

Yeah, CO is nasty stuff and can be the root cause of all sorts of problems. Hope to hear that when the new furnace comes in, you start feeling like your old self again.

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I highly recommend Carbon Monoxide detectors for all my fellow beaders. One thing about them though is that you should have them as close to the ground next to your torching area as possible. Carbon Monoxide is heavier than air and if you start to get a build up it will be close to the floor first.

The detector I have also detects propane (and I think other fuels) so if my propane tank has a leak it'll let me know about that. I suspect I might smell it before there's an issue but it certainly can't hurt to have it being detected.

I have a 15 lb tank that I carry in and out of the house before and after torching. The 20lb tanks when full are too heavy and unweildy, I think, to be moving them around that frequently and I am amazed how much torching I get out of even my small tank.

Also, as far as Carbon Monoxide goes, I torch in my basement somewhat near the furnace so hopefully my little monitor kills two birds with one stone on the detection front.

Let me know if anyone wants to know the make and model of my detector.

- Sandy

On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 16:50:28 -0500, Tink wrote (in message ):

You are going after him, yes? He needs to have the business end of a torch placed where the sun don't shine. Because in light of the rest of your post, this guy could have killed you. BTW, use a Hot Head for that, you don't want to mess with one of your good torches.

We call those "Mrs. Varraso" calls around here. Any time I get a call where they call me "Mrs. Varraso," it means (a) my kid is in big trouble, and/or (b) it's going to cost me a lot of money. I wonder why they never call _Mr. Varraso_ about these things.

It would also explain why Prairieson isn't ill. He's out at work all day, and you're in the house most of the time. Same thing with your bead wench - she's only there for a relatively short period of time. For either one, the short exposure would likely wear off after a little while in clean air.

Thank God. A new furnace doesn't sound so bad when you think of what could have happened if you didn't replace it.

Kathy N-V

Tink,

I sure hope that's an easy answer to your health issues! Thank goodness you called the guy!

Oh sweetie. How are you going to stay warm, do you need spacer heaters or anything? Wanna bring your torch and stay in Columbus for a while? Since you work at home, this would be easy to do. Prairieson would have quite a drive, but we have room for him also.

Becki "In between the moon and you, the angels have a better view of the crumbling difference between wrong and right." -- Counting Crows

Bless your heart, Becki!!!!!!!!!!! We'll be fine. I'm sure of it. We do have some of those little ceramic heater thingies, three cats and a large puppy to keep us warm, if need be. I don't think it's supposed to get really yucky cold until the weekend.

My oxygen concentrators have been unhooked and packed up. My propane tank has been hauled to the garage for the last time. If I can just figure out how to get the oxygen generator and the gas booster going, I can start torching again. That should heat up the house, eh? LOL!

Yes, I thought about you sitting by the torch with the animals huddled around you, trying to catch some warmth, LOL. Ginger Fulton's dog used to sit on her feet while she worked and she told stories of catching his fur on fire. So, It wasn't the best of mind movies.

Put all the ceramic heaters in one room and stay in there, LOL. Live in one room until the heater gets fixed or I will have to come up there.

Becki "In between the moon and you, the angels have a better view of the crumbling difference between wrong and right." -- Counting Crows

Holy crap Tink!!! Yuck! And I am sure that adding a torch to the mix was only exacerbating the problem. I have a carbon monoxide detector in my studio - you should definitely have one in there, better safe than sorry. The good news is that after replacing the furnace, your symptoms should go away. I had the same problem after my lampwork class because they did not have adequate ventilation for 8 torches. My chest hurt for a week after.

Yes, yes, a thousand times yes! And you have good ventilation in the basement, I hope?

Hehehe - and you can also turn your kiln on and open the doors and stand in front of it. Mmmmmm warm.

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Tink" :

]My oxygen concentrators have been unhooked and packed up. My propane tank ]has been hauled to the garage for the last time. If I can just figure out ]how to get the oxygen generator and the gas booster going, I can start ]torching again. That should heat up the house, eh? LOL!

uhm, not that i have anything against you torching, dear, but . . .

aren't you going to wait and make SURE that's what was causing the problem??? i mean, i'd hate to have you keel over!

----------- @vicki [SnuggleWench] (Books)

(Jewelry) ----------- It's not what you take, when you leave this world behind you; it's what you leave behind you when you go. -- Randy Travis

Here's the thing: Apparently, all of my symptoms COULD be related to carbon monoxide poisoning!!! I even called my doctor, and he agreed. Even the chest pains! Flu-like symptoms, difficulty breathing... Maybe this is the source of my trouble?

as an ex-firefighter my answer is fairly simple SHIT YES !!!

and GET THE HELL OUT OF THE HOUSE NOW if you cannot leave the heat off!

I'm just glad I decided to have him come back and clean it. It very well might have saved our lives.>>>

oh god - definitely !!!

(one reason I am glad I have an electric furnace -- even if it is Expensive as hell...)

Cheryl of DRAGON BEADS Flameworked beads and glass

I have pretty good ventilation down there. Soon it will be even better, as I'm getting a hood from Glasstech (I think) after I get the studio set up. I need to wait until then so I know what I need ductwork-wise.

I got the gas booster set up, as well as the O2 generator. Unfortunately, the hose that should go from the gas line to the booster isn't long enough. I either need to raise the booster or get a longer hose or a combination of both.

I'm hoping I get to torch some before the year is over...

I went out and got a carbon monoxide detector tonight. I've turned the furnace waaaaay down, so it won't kick on very much. I should find out tomorrow what the new furnace is going to cost. I guess I'll be eating McDonald's while we're at the Tink Gathering. LOL! I think this is going to drain my whole trip fund, and then some. And with the studio situation, I don't even know when I can melt more glass to boost my fundage. At least I have the cool stuff I made while I was doing the demos for Gallery B last weekend...

I'm just grateful that we found out about the furnace problem. And I will be doubly grateful if we find out this has been the source of most of my health issues. The thing is, I was pretty much feeling the same way, to a lesser degree, during the summer (non-heating months). Time will tell, and I still have those tests to go through.

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Yes I do. I always had a small fan going when I torched but I just recently had installed a two-speed exhaust fan that rated at 500 cfm on low and 560 cfm on high.

That's probably more than I really need and it surely makes the basement rather chilly when it's cold outside but it is a comfort to know I can pull that much air. Even with that much pull I still wear a respirator when I am working with silver.

- Sandy

Tink...

I hope that was the cause of the problems you were having, howver....

Do NOT cancel you doctor appointments!!

Katie

~~ KatieLiz ~~