Wow, my first rude question from Ebay!

You'd think with all that extra time, they'd do some research.

Yeah, but that would require thinking for one's self, wouldn't it?

Oops...did I actually type that out loud?

Well, that's how it goes on ebay. People can put words like "emerald" and "pearl" in titles of auctions that have nothing to do with actual emeralds or pearls. Unless the auction is grossly misleading, it's not against the rules. Such as the auctions which state annealed and are not - that's keyowrd spamming. Annealed cannot mean more than one thing, when it comes to beads. A bead is either annealed or it's not. Raku can simply refer to a color scheme. So can words like Patina, Pearl, Crystal, etc.

People do stick things in the wrong category and that's why searches for "annealed lampwork beads" will still return things like jewelry, tools, etc. You can report those auctions, but seriously, who has the time?

The person who complained about the raku label?

She obviously has time on her hands.

-Su

What fun would that be? :-) Diana

Yeah, we're big into kerosene, too.

Or a smile :-)

Ignoring is only good for those quiet moments of feeling utterly superior and smug.....**not* good for those moments of AAARRRGGH! ~~ Sooz To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. ~~Joseph Chilton Pearce

Much better. Especially because it is educational, which is the correct response to ignorance. It should be kept in mind, that this could be a potential customer. I have to say, I too thought "raku" was an incorrect description when I first heard it. It still irks me slightly that the word for a process is being applied to describe a color of frit.

Tina

oh, my actual response was equally polite, if not as clever :) I never really considered sending my vent - I am a businesswoman, after all. ;)

I can't speak for Val and why she named it Raku. However,the process you have to go through to get it to produce the varied colors is similar to what is done in clay, as far as having to manipulate temperature by rapidly cooling the surface to create a reaction. So I don't think it was just a random name.

This HAS to be the same person that gave me grief in July and August when I had my raku series going....long before the frit, I might add... They were not very polite, but I did a search on their bidding history and discovered they bought raku, and obviously felt I'd messed up their search!

Carolyn

you know, I didn't look her up before but I did just now, and yes - many raku purchases and also Scandinavian troll folk art. No. I'm not kidding. I think it explains a lot...

ROFL! I didn't see the troll art when I checked!!!

Carolyn

Well, if you want to get technical, the frit actually is a reduction color, which means that it's subject to the identical chemical process as what you find in raku glazes on pottery, which are, fundamentally, metal-oxide-loaded ground glass.

If you took a powder of this glass and mixed it into a glaze base, applied it to a clay pot and fired it in a heavily reducing atmosphere, you would, in fact, have raku.

To be completely fair, "raku" itself means "joy", and and was at one time the name of a family who produced raku pottery for several generations... and they first named the pottery, and then themselves, after a *house*. (The House of Joy? Oh my...) Originally raku pottery was simply known as "Modern" or "New Style" pottery.

OK, now kick me for being a smarty-pants... but my point is, you can't get too picky about what something is named for, because it's unlikely that any one process or technique originated a word or name. For the most part, the name was borrowed from somewhere else to begin with, and the new technique or product probably has something in common with the original, to warrant the reference.

-Kalera

Christ> Much better. Especially because it is educational, which is the correct

Yeah, and maybe this person needs to get a clue and narrow their search to the pottery category? It's not *that* complicated...

-Kalera

Kandice Seeber wrote:

This could be a good response for next time. ~~ Sooz To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. ~~Joseph Chilton Pearce

Now kick you? Hell, no. Many thanks for educating me.

Tina

:D

(thanks for not kicking)

-Kalera

Christ> Now kick you? Hell, no. Many thanks for educating me.