Query about glass cutting

I am an owner builder and as such have glass needs for my windows. If I have a large piece of glass is it feasible to cut that glass down in size and use it for a windows? Would this be cheaper than outright purchase of glass precut to the size required? I am assuming that pretty much any qualified glazier could do this (if of course it is doable and worthwhile)? I have the opportunity to get all the glass I need FOR FREE so this information would be good to know.

This was the only glass newsgroup I could find. I tried to call glaziers from the yellow pages but all I got was the runaround. It seems if you aren't ordering a broken window to be fixed or something similar then you are wasting their time. Any of these companies that would have put me through to someone in the know would have most likely had all of the business when it happens

Reply to
Mr.McSpanky
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I am just curious, and of course, can answer your question, but I am wondering about something.

This person that puts you through to someone, how do they make a living "having all of the business" when it happens? Glass shops make money selling glass, and you have all the glass you need for free. So why should they be interested when that is not what pays their bills, makes them a genuine upstanding fine person, but does not pay their phone bill or any other bill. SO, educate me on how helping you benefits a glazing business, please.

Now to answer your question, of course it is feasible and doable, that is how the glass business buys their glass, in larger sheets, (easier to store) and then cuts it to meet their needs. Yes, you can do the same, just takes technique and know how.

I would be interested in all I can handle when this happens, where in the world are you?

Reply to
Javahut

Why didn't you just come out and say you were in Australia?

Reply to
Javahut

That would be because Australians are by their very nature, "criminal". ;

Reply to
Moonraker

sure. they get to cut it and install it and they get paid for their time and labour. Is that easy. Do you know the answer or are you just being a dick?

Reply to
Mr.McSpanky

I'm sorry. I didn't think I needed to report my location on usenet to ask a simple question that should have been able to be answered by one of the twenty odd people I phoned earlier today. I should have just bent over and held a fistful of US dollars in the air and then maybe someone would have answered me. Thanks for your culture USA.

Reply to
Mr.McSpanky
  1. Buy a glass cutter from the hardware store.
  2. Get a cork back ruler or something.
  3. Look at a stained glass book to see how to use the cutter.
  4. Practice
Reply to
C Ryman

Can you read?

you asked:

"is it feasible to cut that glass down in size and use it for a windows? Would this be cheaper than outright purchase of glass precut to the size required?"

and I answered: " Now to answer your question, of course it is feasible and doable, that is how the glass business buys their glass, in larger sheets, (easier to store) and then cuts it to meet their needs. Yes, you can do the same, just takes technique and know how."

Who is being the dick?

and I asked where you were at because , my last line from previous post, "I would be interested in all I can handle when this happens, where in the world are you?"

I travel and do glazing wherever it is needed, it is what I "DO"

Have someone read this to you as you don't seem to comprehend it when you try to read it yourself, asswipe.

Reply to
Javahut

Kind of sensitive about it aren't you? You don't NEED to REPORT, it was a simple question, you were offering all the work one could handle, of course I want find out where that is.

It's no damn wonder you don't get answers on the phone, soon as you attitude shows, no one wants to speak with you, let alone waste their time on a money losing proposition.

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Javahut

I have a "small" one man shop and in the very far past ( a financial necessity) would be available for odd jobs. The local glass company in town was called by a person asking for someone to come out and cut some LARGE (if memory serves) HEAVY GLASS that was stored in a barn for years. The local glass company was wise enough to refuse the request and to pass my phone number along. Long story short..........the glass was about 28 miles from me, in a barn that was overgrown with weeds, needed to be moved so I could get to it, was around 6x3 FEET, dirty and so on. I tactfully suggested that it was a project that I could not handle. The person berated and put me (and the local glass company) down for not wanting to work, explaining that is what is wrong with the country and so on. I cheerfully suggested, I would cut the glass "FOR FREE" (with some amount limits) if they would bring it cleaned to my shop. They hung up on me................... A major lesson was learned: ASK ALL QUESTIONS and assume there is a reason why they are calling me (who does no advertising nor is available to the public) as probably there are a few mitigating circumstances to the project. I am now old enough, marginally wise enough to say NO NO NO and not even care.

h, who is working on project number 1,088 which is SOLD 14 DF.

Reply to
howard

What is an owner builder?

As for the rest of your post. As a builder I doubt that you should even worry about what a glass shop would charge you to cut your own glass. It would be minimal. Compared to the cost of just having them do it...have them do it. They'll get it right, or at least should. Besides, what better way to build a relationship with another business....what with you being an owner builder.

Andy

Reply to
neoglassic

Well, as an "owner builder" I'm sure you are familiar with the scenario where the home owner wants you to come hang a door for him (that he got for free somewhere) and install the lockset and hinges (which he already has), leaving you with no place to make any profit other than selling your few hours of labor.

So, this FREE glass? Why is it free? Scrap from some other glazier, seconds from a manufacturer? My experience is that if something is free, the donor is getting exactly what it is worth. If it was first quality goods, they would be selling it. Or, you are stealing it?

So any glazier that would take this on is nutz.....why work with second-quality/scrap (from an unknown source) with no mark-up in it, assume the liability for the glass being cut incorrectly or breakage, just to accomodate some cheapskate who wouldn't do business with them in the first place? What you are asking for is a nuisance for any business. Next time you want your oil changed, take the shop your own oil you bought on sale and a filter. See how far you get.

Reply to
Moonraker

Yes with a few exceptions, glass can be cut to size. I'm guessing you already knew that? The issue here is labor, which may be more than the free glass is worth if it involves, travel, cleaning, workspace, etc. For the life of me I can't imagine why you couldn't get this info from any of your local glaziers? I will cut anyones glass with the understanding that I'm not responsible for something going wrong. Really old window glass doesn't cut well.

Reply to
Glassman

For the right price I'd cut glass in Seberia......... naked. We alll have our price.

- "Don't get me wrong... I'm SNARKY" JK Sinrod Sinrod Stained Glass Studios

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Glassman

Reply to
michele

That's a mind-boggling thought.

'Prolly wouldn't draw much of a crowd, though.

Reply to
Moonraker

Sure it can be done but if I were you I would get out of building and be a glass wholesaler.

OTOH, if by "all the glass I need" you mean just what you need for your windows then I would say it's not worth the time. My guess is that the labor is the major cost of glazing a window. DS is pretty cheap when bought in quantity.

Reply to
nJb

place? What you are asking for is a nuisance for any business. Next time

well, the place i go does this. i provide the oil since they don't stock synthetics. they then give me a discount for doing so.

Reply to
Charles Spitzer

please post pictures to help me decide on your contract

Reply to
Mr.McSpanky

I would never consider getting someone out to cut glass that wasn't cleaned and setup ready for their work and I certainly don't blame you for not wanting to do it considering your scenario. I understand my limitations as far as expertise and time go and will employ someone to make and install all of the windows. I had assumed that if I could provide the glass (good quality, large sheets, not stolen, and free) onsite then I might be able to save some money while still making it worth the while of the window maker/installer. Quite frankly, I have found that not many 'professional' types seem to be interested and I suspect that is mainly due to their abilities stretching as far as installing mass produced precut aluminum framed windows and anything else is beyond a lot of their abilities. That isn't a dig at glaziers in general as I know there are a lot of capable people out there they just don't seem to exist in SA. As it stands we are probably going to bring some guys out from the UK that have worked with us before.

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Mr.McSpanky

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