i have posted an article i read about Obama since i am curious

"... can't see content ..." seems to be the norm for almost all political candidates here, although I know many people who seem to believe there is content where there actually is none. My theory is that issuing real content runs the risk of losing votes. Even the "debates" are simply opportunity for candidates to make timed, prepared comments related to the expected topics of questions, with those prepared short speeches delivered in a carefully prepared manner in order to appear candid and spontaneous. "Prepared" is key. Slogans, sound bites, and appearance are the general modus operandi. And isn't that sad!

It does seem rather interesting that with three content-free candidates, Mirjam chooses to pick on only one of them, first calling him a demagogue and now claiming that this particular bit of political propaganda agitating against him is interesting enough to share.

Mirjam, does it bother you that a man whose father comes from Kenya might become President of the United States? Why is that?

Elizabeth

Really ? Are you sure about that ?

Try again. She has called him a demogogue and here she is saying not that the editorial has no content, but that Obama's speeches have no content.

Yes you are right , But the difference is that , two of the candidates have been more exposed in public life, thus we can compare between their speeches and past deeds, And i tottaly agree with you that Slogans Sound bites and appearances take over Serious debates and Spontaneous reactions and that it is SAD .. very sad and it is so sad since other countries like our`s learn from this USA methods of elections .. Which might be great for American life , but really don`t suit us , even though some of our politicians like them. mirjam

Elizabeth, you might be surprised , but until i saw the film with Obama`s grandmother in Kenya, i had no idea where his father was born. and i was touched that he donated money for a school in his late father`s village. After i saw that , I knew it , but didn`t think it matters, After all Usa populations, comes from many continents, and the governing bodies should include people from all those backhrounds . I am though interested in the New To me man `s opinions , ideaology, public law work he did etc,,, And i hope that these are open and liberal, and that he has not many background prejudices. mirjam

Thank you Judy ,, yes i was wondering about these article being so different than the High rating and all the people who vote for him .... As i explained in another letter , he is the only one of the three candidates that is Tottal unknown ,, thus naturaly my attention goes to his campaign. mirjam

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Well Elizabeth, i may have an opinion, about how his speeches Sound to me personally !!! I am a looker from the side from over the border!!! remember i have no sentiments for any of your parties. You are in the middle of it and probably have your own party prfference. You teach social science, i laid a question in this News group whose `regular` writers Praise themselves time and again, about knowing Everything!!!! Time and again people come here with Health, educational and other issues,,,, I am reading and watching the USA elections, and i wondered, how come that so many people are voting for him and than Such an article can appear ,,, instead of explaining to me why the writer wrote what he wrote, you use the opportunity as you always do , to start a private flame war against me ... mirjam

Yes, you can. But it seems to me that you're not listening very well, if you think they are any more content free than those of his opponents.

And you'd be one of those regular writers, praising herself for knowing things, Mirjam.

Not always, Mirjam. I haven't responded to you in a very long time. And I did answer your question: the author of the article is simply picking up the Clinton campaign's new accusation.

Elizabeth

him. She was wondering about the wording in the

Interesting. That's not what you said in your response to me; you said that you could have an opinion of his speeches if you wanted. So which is it, Mirjam? Were you commenting that Obama's speeches are content free, or were you saying the article you quoted was content free?

Elizabeth

Now Elizabeth ,

Why am i NOT surprised at your reaction , Whatever i say or write you won`t give me the benefit of respecting my opinion anyway ,,,, I never said his were more content free , i said io paid more attention to his sppeches and thus i had the impression i spoke about ..

Yes , everybody here probably know something ,,, but you are deliberately taking this out of it`s content ,,, and than it means somethings else ,,, >

Ok you have answred me once or twice in XXXXX years ,,,, I did thank you when you did /do it ..... mirjam Congratulations on your new Email adress ,,, >

g on him. She was wondering about the wording in the

the comment about my Ability to have an opinion about his speeches came later ,,, and i explained several times why i noted his speeches more than the others` ,, The article whose adress i sent , but didn`t quote from , was interesting as an other point of view than the one of many people....Just now all is a Tabula Rassa ,,, mirjam

What new email address? This is the same one I've had since 1999.

Elizabeth

I took it to mean you left off the Salem bit ? You know I regularly get panned for taking LBs name, so I guess you associating with witches isn't nice, or something lol

I've left the Salem bit off since she gave me crap about it years ago, as if there was something wrong with living in Salem. Now I only add it if it's relevant to the conversation.

Elizabeth

Part of your emails , like THIS one i am answering come from snipped-for-privacy@mindspring.com and others have the Usaual Dr Brat ..... hence my congratulation about a new adress !!!!

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It so like you to tell the story a slightly different ,, at the Time you and your cheer leaders group , flamed me heavily ,, and i asked you why you lead a witch hunt ,,,, It was your choice to change your sigline , sometimes after that flame war .... mirjam