OT: I don't know

Was it Gill who said something about a McCain/Leiberman ticket? In your wildest dreams did you ever dream there would be a contest that included such a group?

I guess that could be considered a sign of better times ahead. At least I hope so.

That would be one way to keep me from voting for McCain.

Elizabeth

Which JS - father or son?

As for Kerry - I think we've discussed my opinion of him in the past. C

Plaid would refer to any multi coloured fabric of that general type, but tartan refers to a pattern used by a specific family or clan.

A plaid is also the swathe of fabric which is worn with the kilt going up to a pin on the shoulder.

The one who began his political career in the early 1980s and screwed his students at Tufts over in the process.

Elizabeth

The younger then. The old man was great governor. Not much of an opinion of the son either way

Constitutional Law was my specialty, so I'll take the hand-off.

Griswold was the Planned Parenthood case. Connecticut law provided for fines for use of contraception, and PlPhd was charged as an accessory for providing contraceptives to a *married* couple. "This law, however, operates directly on an intimate relation of husband and wife and their physician's role in one aspect of that relation." The holding was that government control "may not be achieved by means which ... invade the area of protected freedoms." (i.e., right to privacy in the marital bed)

Roe was an attack on Texas abortion laws making it a crime, except when necessary to save the life of the mother. "The right of privacy ... is broad enough to encompass a woman's decision whether or not to terminate her pregnancy." It is "primarily, a medical decision, and basic responsibility for it must rest with the physician."

There was discussion in Roe that "the word 'person,' as used in the Fourteenth Amendment, does not include the unborn," but right to privacy was the fundamental point of the ruling.

Thanks for the info. I did Google, and learn that I was wrong about it being a matter of spending federal funds.

I STILL believe that it should not be a political issue, but a woman's conscience!

I remember when my daughter went off to college in 1980 we had Mom/daughter talk. I remember telling her to be safe etc etc. IF she happened to get pregnant,without a deep involvement, abortion was a reasonable decision, in that she had her entire future ahead of her. I was surprised when she disagreed with me. That was when I first learned that she was an adult LOL.

any man who can not put his hand over his heart in respect for the pledge of allegiance to the flag or Star Spangle banner while he is running for president does not deserve the honor of pres due to his own of lack of respect for the country.

Hey, if that's what's important to you, go for it. I'm more interested in whether he stands by his word (rather than vetoing funding for contracts that he sent teams to negotiate) and is consistent in his politics (rather than voting to go to war but then complaining about how the war is run). Whether he puts his hand over his heart or simply stands attentively doesn't matter nearly as much to me as whether he's competent, but we're all allowed our own opinion and our own vote.

Elizabeth

Has anyone noticed how the media speaks of Obama, last name and Hillary, first name.

Is that familiarity or disrespect?

yes

Yes, I noticed that but hopefully it is only done because saying Clinton would be somewhat confusing - hopefully but not necessarily convinced !

Gee! Thanks Cheryl for clearing that up for me. ;-) RD&H

It's how we were treated when at Grammar School in the 1950s. Teachers always addressed boys by their surname and girls by their Christian name. There was a tendency for boys to refer to each other by their surname.

It's disrespect in my book. My students do it too. Jean-Jacques Rousseau is "Rousseau" but Mary Wollstonecraft is "Mary." I tell them that if they haven't been drinking with her, they can't call her Mary.

Elizabeth

I went to school with three boys, Morris major, Morris minor and Morris minimus. That sorted that out when there were siblings lol

Students often forget whom they have been drinking with though lol

The media is A) overly familiar and B) disrepectful