OT: Just need to vent

Maybe there are just too many fund raising events - that seems to be the problem here, and I imagine it`s pretty general. Too many demands on people`s pockets.

Pat P

I think that is the problem Pat - you can't go anywhere it seems without someone wanting you to donate a 'loonie' or 'your points' or something. They even have kids from various schools or teams bagging your groceries for 'something' .... it gets tiresome after a while. I do however love giving to the War Vets and proudly wear my poppy. :-))

I must admit I had not thought of that. I know one of my grandsons remarked that a boy in his class always got the prizes because his mother worked in a huge government department and just had to send the catalogue (or whatever) around in the internal mail to raise the most.

Same here!

Now, that one took me back to 1971!! My son got lots of goodies, because his Dad took the paperwork to work, on Base. Said son is now nearly 41, and prolly (for you, Sheena) had no idea how the goodies came his way. This is the same son who is marrying Ayako, a Japanese lady.

Gillian

Pat, do the Scouts have the equivalent of "Bov a job" week? I could always get my bicycle cleaned, and if my brother did it, the spokes had to be shiny??

Gill

That prolly really turns Pat's crank lololol Should I say , it's her bete noire ?

Something struck me at a bridge game - I caught somebody trying to do a cheat (again!) and after pointing it out and having the situation righted, I observed I had come to the conclusion that most people raised in NA seem to adhere to the Kennedy philosophy of "Coming second doesn't count" whereas I, raised in a British Public School, had it drummed into me "It's not whether you win or lose, but how you play the game" - I loathe and detest any forms of cheating. It was absolutely beyond the pale. Not exactly anything to do with gowdom ethics, but an observation made recently and with dismay.

Do you really think it's something that has to do with coming from NA, rather than something that was taught to us as youngsters by either our teachers or our parents. I've been told I'm sometimes brutally honest and I too detest any form of cheating, and my parents and my grandmother were the same.

For what it's worth, the only one of my so-called "friends" that I don't particularly trust just happens to be the child of immigrants but I never thought that was the reason she was so dishonest. I also wonder whether you're right when I've watched some terrible behavior by the fans at soccer games played in Europe, or the shenanigans that go on at many sports arenas around the world

I sincerely hope you're wrong and it's not related to North America because that thought makes me so sad.

Lucille

I don't know but my daughters always complain that I should learn to lie, I am too honest lol

I have to say, in defence of soccer, that it is not fans who do this, it is hooligans! The fans I know, no longer feel safe enough to attend Saturday afternoon soccer games anymore. Their pleasure has been ruined, they fear for their safety and do not want to be embroiled in the debacle.

I can't say, but I find myself one of the few who really seems to abhor cheating in any form. It even carries over into little forms of what I would consider fair play.

Yesterday for instance I was playing with a really nice man who will not play with people who get upset over losing etc etc. In the very last round we played against a pair who had done badly all day. One of them miscounted the tricks they had lost and I was correcting her when I caught his glance and let it go. Next one of them misplayed and we let it go. Then Doug accidentally played another card when he should have followed suit. They immediately called the Director and claimed a two trick penalty.

How cheap is that? That says win at all cost to me! They lost the round though to us ultimately and I felt really good about that particular win at that point! So did Doug! It doesn't always go that way when you are up against the win any way you can people but at least I feel I go home with my integrity intact.

"clancyc" wrote ..

Me too---but truthfully, it should be "poppies", because I have never got through the first 2 weeks of November without having to buy at least 3. Bought one last Saturday (from a white haired Legion member), jammed it firmly into the heavy nylon of my handbag, and by Monday had to buy another from a pair of young air cadets. Those pins are designed to slide out of fabric, I swear. Dawne

They do seem that way - but then - that's a good thing lol

I'll "buy" as many as I can. Vets don't get enough support in this country.

Cheryl

Lots of support here - always has been a day off on November 11 to go to the cenotaphs and at the very least, two minutes of silence at 11 a.m.

Vets have been in the schools talking to children for years and we have tried to teach them to understand the magnitude of the debt they owed the ones who left as young people, 17/18/19 and never came home.

I 'cheated' this year and stapled it to the lapel of my jacket. I've lost so many that I decided to take action! :-))

Sharon (N.B.) .................................................................

I have my Brownie troop doing "thank you" notes to mail to the veterans home and the hospital in NH. Otherwise, it is just another day off to them

Cheryl

"Genghis Khan's Wife" wrote.

So.......I buy more than one. And I don't begrudge the money. Dawne

"Lucretia Borgia" >

In its own way, yes. But I think it would be nice to offer, in addition, a kind of "limited edition" poppy with a pin back and the year on it (so it wouldn't be a buy once and forever sort of thing). I would gladly play more for one, so that I could be sure it was on my coat for the whole duration of the month. Dawne

Lucretia Borgia worte

The news film of the First Nations people who are over in France and Belgium at the moment has been excellent. For those outside of Canada, a group of Indian, Inuit and Metis people have gone over to perform ceremonies to "call home" the spirits of the soldiers killed in Europe. An inukshuk has been placed on a Normandy beach pointing back to Canada. First Nations veterans have been part of the group, along with dancers and singers. Dawne