Yes James you are correct, by law every citizen male and female who reach the age of 18 should enlist in the IDF . with the exceprtion of some religious groups and some minorities. By the way many of those who aren`t compelled to serve choose to do some voluntary service [from teaching to hospital work etc.].
I didn`t answer Lucretia`s remark , s>> That in spite of the fact Israeli mothers allow their children to go
Well, if your country were attacked from all sides on the very first day of its existence, and was attacked regularly since, you would understand the necessity of having a large permanent army able to respond and see it as your sons and daughters protecting you personally.
The situation there is quite different than it is here, where neither the US nor Canada has had enemy troops within their borders in eons. We send *our* kids off to protect other people, which doesn't seem to benefit their own mothers one iota.
Do you think that perhaps Lebanon didn't learn that lesson in the early
1980s? The difference between Lebanon and Egypt, Jordan, and Syria is the strength of their governments. The latter are semi-dictatorships while the former was a flourishing democracy that started to come apart and was unable to control its territory adequately. The last Israeli invasion didn't help that situation any and I don't think this one will either. Lebanon is not Israel's enemy. Hezbollah is. Destroying Lebanon's infrastructure will not help Lebanon control Hezbollah.Elizabeth
You would see such mothers in your country if the choise was to be slaughtered , mirjam
The terrorist movement hit Haifa with 8 rockets , they killed 3 people and wounded more than 100. Hezbulla are terrorists mirjam
It's all relative to your own position (or belief). Like the well-known verb declension: "I am a freedom-fighter, you are a guerilla, he is a terrorist."
It might interest you that just now i listened to the radio , 2 of last night rocket attack in our city will be buried in the Catholic Cemetry , 1 in a Jewish cemetry. HAIFA is a mixed city, our populations live together , that is one of the main reasons we were targeted by suicide bombers as well . as to the Hizbulla`s deffinition as TERRORIST MILITIA ,, go to the UN resolutions. Nothing relative about it . mirjam
Mirjam, Glad to see you still posting. Haifa is definetely a very mixed city. Has any damage been done to the Baha'i temple and gardens? They are so beautiful and peaceful and it would be a shame if they were damaged. My brother in Nahariya is fine, though he no longer has any window glass in his kitchen. It is all in little shards embedded in his cabinets and table along with pieces of the rocket. He was in his safe room with my nephew so both survived intact but a little shaken. Five minutes ealier my nephew was in the kitchen making lunch. My brother was in the safe room taking a nap and my nephew had gone there to wake him up for lunch.
Keep safe.
George
snipped-for-privacy@actcom.co.il (Mirjam Bruck-Cohen) wrote:
George , My heart cries for the people in Nahariya ,[it is my youth city], my heart cries for all the people suffering, this Brutality. I haven`t been out to look at the Bahaai temple & gardens , and as much as my heart wories for all the beautiful trees and plants all over the North, i worry more for people`s lives. Tell your brother i used to live in Hertzel steet in Nahariya. Close to Margo`a street. We are in Haifa are less targeted , Up North is HELL , between the falls, the outings the sirens . May we all survive it soon . Wish yourbrother a `Hazak Ve Ematz ` from me . mirjam
Thank you for the reminder that humans are dying, not some meaningless number.
Terrorists are called Terrorists because they thrive on creating terror. They wrap themselves in a cause, but the main goal is creating terror and demoralizing their enemies.
Stand strong Mirjam! Don't let the bastards win!
Caryn
Thank you Caryn We are on our 30th day of being attacked , many died many wounded , From a country of 5.5 million people about 400.000 are refugees , living in tents ,parks, family and even strangers take in families. Jews , Arabs,Druz ,, all our people get harmed. destruction and death is the Allah this terrorists worship . mirjam
Mirjam, I have a question for you. Just your opinion. What do you think the likelihood is that Israel will try to take back the strip and do you think they will be successful? Just looking for some interesting information.
Angela
Angela , first of all i do not consieder any question about Israel as THEY ,, Israel is us, me + my family + my colleagues neighbours etc,,,We have one lot.
If the happenings in Heathrow yesterday , hasn`t made it clear to you in which world we live now? what do you want me to say.
Since I am not in the government , nore do i head the army , thus i can`t tell you the plans. But since this is one of the most interactive democracies and every tv station has some ex ministeres ex army people etc,,arguing every moove.,, i can vouch for the general idea, Which is , we want to live in peace with Lebanon , so that an international border seperates us. We can`t accept that a Fundamenatalist terror Militia Armed with
12000 rockets of various destructive abilities , will sit behind this border and supported and armed by A Country that openly speak about Our anihilation, and will Threaten us on a daily basis. This is my personal opinion. mirjam disliking rockets .
I did not mean any offence by the terminology whatsoever. I am in full support of Israel. I was simply asking your opinion (as a person there at the present moment), if you think that at some point would consider taking back the Gaza Strip from the Palestinians (In my humble opinion, I believe it belongs to Israel). From my faith standpoint (yes, as a Christian), Israel has always belonged there and I also feel that it would be a HUGE mistake for the U.S. to not stand by Israel.
I didn't expect a response as if you were in the military or a government member. I just want to educate myself further from someone who sees things first had on a daily basis. That's all.
Angela
"Angbug" ,in rec.crafts.textiles.needleworkwrote: and entertained us with
You need a massive education if you believe that the Palestinians should be eradicated and the Gaza Strip given to Israel!
snipped-for-privacy@actcom.co.il (Mirjam Bruck-Cohen),in rec.crafts.textiles.needleworkwrote: and entertained us with
Would that be after you bombed their power station, or before ??? Or maybe when you bombed some parents to death on the beach in front of their children ?
I was wondering if Angela (and I was going to address her and then thought I'd tag on your post because of its pertinence) was a member/believer in the position that the end days will only come when Israel owns all of that land, so many are trying to hurry that along. This concerns me, because it is a position/philosophy that may have already gotten us into trouble.
Dianne
Sorry , Angela , I am sorry Angela, i was pondering about the use of the word `strip`, but since i live in Haifa , and live in the shelter/safe place to save my life from those Murderous Rockets [ Explosives + Metal pellets] i thought you meant Lebanon ,, I know you had no intention to offend, but i have no intention of being separatred from the the general WE all of us in the same danger.
The Gaza [ we call it AZZA just like it was called in the time of SAMSON]. strip has exchnaged hands ever since King Solomon`s time. and finnaly we have agreed to give it to the Palestinian Authority.
The problen as i see it , is that their leaders somehow aren`t interested at this point in History , to deal with Mundane things like streets , garbage etc,, the late mr Arrafat , loved being photographed in [well ironed ] Uniform never in working clothes.
Mentaly and culturaly we indeed carry in our hearts all the sights and smells of the whole [ not so big]country , From Mount Hermon to the red sea and from the Mediterenean to the Mountains of Basahan & Golan ,, But Historical times changed, other people mooved in and claim it all , Thus the Traditional way is sharing. And sharing need discussions, needs shaking hands, and this is a bit hard to get.
i think our countries have a pact of sorts. But Us will do what is good for herown interest.
I understood that, and wanted to make clear what i felt ,,, I think Azza should settle down , it population should demand from their leaders to stop wasting all soursce on weapons , instead manufacture some useful things ... and provide work and better opportunities for their people. If they go on shooting Kassams [ a kind of rocket] on our villages over the international borders and if they can`t keep their own yard clean , maybe they need some help cleaning it ,,, \for years i hoped talking can be done ,,,, i slowly loose this belief. Every time there is a chance to better something , somebody there blows it up... how long can this go on ? mirjam
Sorry , Angela , I am sorry Angela, i was pondering about the use of the word `strip`, but since i live in Haifa , and live in the shelter/safe place to save my life from those Murderous Rockets [ Explosives + Metal pellets] i thought you meant Lebanon ,, I know you had no intention to offend, but i have no intention of being separatred from the the general WE all of us in the same danger.
The Gaza [ we call it AZZA just like it was called in the time of SAMSON]. strip has exchnaged hands ever since King Solomon`s time. and finnaly we have agreed to give it to the Palestinian Authority.
The problem as i see it , is that their leaders somehow aren`t interested at this point in History , to deal with Mundane things like streets , garbage etc,, the late mr Arrafat , loved being photographed in [well ironed ] Uniform never in working clothes.
Mentaly and culturaly we indeed carry in our hearts all the sights and smells of the whole [ not so big]country , From Mount Hermon to the red sea and from the Mediterenean to the Mountains of Basahan & Golan ,, But Historical times changed, other people mooved in and claim it all , Thus the Traditional way is sharing. And sharing need discussions, needs shaking hands, and this is a bit hard to get.
i think our countries have a pact of sorts. But Us will do what is good for herown interest.
I understood that, and wanted to make clear what i felt ,,, I think Azza should settle down , it population should demand from their leaders to stop wasting all soursce on weapons , instead manufacture some useful things ... and provide work and better opportunities for their people. If they go on shooting Kassams [ a kind of rocket] on our villages over the international borders and if they can`t keep their own yard clean , maybe they need some help cleaning it ,,, \for years i hoped talking can be done ,,,, i slowly loose this belief. Every time there is a chance to better something , somebody there blows it up... how long can this go on ? mirjam
For the time being , the ones kin on eradicating somebody else are the Palestinian Hamas , a side group of Iranian terror . I advice you lucretia to check your education ,,,, on the 25 th of June they tunneled under the International border and kidnapped one of our boys. mirjam
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