Of course it makes sense, we acknowledge the legality of marriage between same sexes and to me it seems only fair - think pensions for a start.
It really hasn't effected religious marriages, no minister is required by law, or forced, to marry a same sex couple. Marriages are going ahead a plenty, both civil and religious and remarkably we have a 50% failure rate, so I think there is far more to worry about than whom is marrying whom lol
Oh dear, that means I've not been "officially" married to Maureen for the last 33 years as we were married in a Methodist church by a Methodist minister and didn't have a civil ceremony. And will I have to pay back the income tax that I didn't pay because I was married?
Jim and I were married in the Courthouse down here in Florida. No blood tests either..we went in on a Friday and filled out the paperwork, and returned on Tuesday, with four of our closest friends, and did the dirty deed! "Marrying Mary" ( the Clerk who does marriages) had a little room all decorated, and it was fun. She included an American Indian poem, and one of the couples with us is jewish, so he brought along the glass in a napkin for Jim to stomp on. Then we all went out for lunch.
Wow, over 13 years ago that was!.
G
You can, but there still really isn't much of a concept of a separation of civil and religious marriage, as there is in many other countries where people typically have two ceremonies-- one civil that makes them legally married in the eyes of the state and a separate ceremony, if they wish, according to the dictates of their religion. The state focuses on the legal/ contractual aspects of marriage and has much less to do with the question of what marriages satisfy the requirements of what religion. In the US, even though you aren't required to have a religious ceremony to get married, the concept of marriage is still pretty monolithic, so when the state considers the question of who should or shouldn't get the legal status of "married," people get all riled up about whether or not the state's definition fits their religion's definition. Most people don't really deal with the concept that the state and their religion might have different requirements. People in the US aren't used to thinking of it that way, so anything the state does to change something about marriage is construed as an attack on marriage.
Best wishes, Ericka
Or, an attack on religion. There is quite a bit of confusion over whether or not our United States was *founded* by religious people's who wrote the Constitution based on religious law, most notably the Ten Commandments. That's not true, but in this day and age, it's hard to convince some that religion had nothing whatsoever to do with our founding. And indeed some of the founding fathers were quite suspect of religion.
Dianne
Didn't I read that they were mostly Deists ?
Good luck with that -
You have no idea. And I am pretty likely to win any "Most Likely to Have Gone to St. Olaf's" contest. Dawne
"Bruce Fletcher wrote
If it is like here, the civil bit takes place almost unnoticed in the religious ceremony, when the couple and their witnesses sign the marriage certificate, which is the state part--the official Office of Vital Statistics or whatever registration. When the officiant pronounces the couple husband and wife, he or she is doing so both on behalf of the state and on behalf of the religious organization, since both give authority, the state by the marriage license, the religion by qualifying the couple to marry by whatever criteria they use. Are you going to break it to Maureen that she is still stuck with you??? (VBG) Dawne
I would think they would rush to accommodate you all - after Happy Hour you can sing to entertain all the other Olde Anglicans lol
I'm sorry that the people in your life are so limited in their abilities.
Elizabeth (whose guy friends can cook and whose women friends can discuss baseball and politics with the best of them)
The UK isn't "European." That's why you get all that special treatment from the EU.
Elizabeth (ducking)
Yeah, we had to have a license, too. But the priest had the authority to sign that license declaring us married, thus making him an official of the state. So much for separation of church and state, no?
Elizabeth
My son's live in girl friend can't cook to save herself, good job I taught him well. She compliments me on how well he cooks lol
Makes sense, seeing how little respect you have for other women. I wouldn't want you as a friend.
Elizabeth
None of the women I hang with discuss fashion, makeup, or the lovelife of Hollywood stars. As I said, I'm sorry that the people in your life are so limited.
"Karen C in California" wrote
Karen Where did you meet these women, and in what century??? If these were women you went to university with, try again.
My friends and I discuss politics, food, religion, books, beer, music, what's on at the gallery, football, the news, the weather, movies etc etc etc. These are friends of both genders and across several generations. When I go for a beer with my best female friends, we would add quilting, soccer, pipe bands, pilates, our kids and other strong personal interests of members of the group. I never talk about baseball. To anybody, of any gender. Because I find it tedious in the extreme. So I don't consider that a marker of the ability to carry on a worthwhile conversation, but hey, if you love it, talk about it with other people who love it too (some of whom I will bet are female, and posters to this group).
Dawne
Our biggest mistake was to (almost) abandon the Commonwealth in favour of Europe. Now a lot of our legislation comes straight from Brussels
Maybe "older and ugly" was the one good in bed....
Jinx
What was the business about straight bananas as opposed to bent bananas ? I know that it was done to stop imports from the Honduras.
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