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WHO IS THE MODERATOR OF THIS SITE PLEASE?

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elleandelle
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Please don't SHOUT.

This is not a "site" this is Usenet. And alt.sewing is not "moderated", but there are rules for posting:

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S. regularly provides the link to the posting FAQ:
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NO Advertising. NONE. No commercial ads, no auction notices, no ebay announcements, no "for sale" private party ads, no links to a commercial site; nothing. There are marketplace groups for ads.(rec.crafts.textiles.marketplace) Ever been to a Usenet group that has more ads than posts? This also includes one line posts announcing commercial sites. And yes, this is a grey area, but in past discussions the overwhelming majority are in agreement that all ads need to go to the marketplace. If you would like to know more about advertising onUsenet, here's a link link to it: Advertising on Usenet: How To Do It, How Not To Do It

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Get caught spamming, "elle"?

Reply to
Me

no - i could not find any rules on the site before i posted my message

- then someone sent me an abusive e mail and is trying to shut down my site.

If they had just told me to remove my posting it would have been kinder.

My site is not for profit and many are going to suffer because of my mistake and the maliciousness of someone in this group.

My mistake was genuine and i deleted the post as soon as i realised my error..

Very sad..

Reply to
elleandelle

There is no moderator, this group is moderated by it's members.

This is USENET, otherwise known as newsgroups - and there are rules... of which is, ads don't belong on discussion groups, of which there is one of.

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Anyone who doesn't know or if a first time poster should read the newsgroup rules.

-------------- You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough.=20

--Mae West=20

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Reply to
IMS

The rules for this group would NOT be posted here...only the discussion emails are posted here. =20

You need to look via the web for the rules,=20

OR

....simply ASK on a newsgroup before you post. Long time newsgroup members will politely inform!

-------------- You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough.=20

--Mae West=20

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Reply to
IMS

wow - you sure are a tough bunch - a genuine mistake is costing me my site - i looked at the "about this site" but could not find any rules. just this Activity: Medium Description: A group that is not as it seams. Categories: Other Usenet: alt.sewing Language: English Activity: Medium Members: 10-100

Access: =B7 Public - Usenet

You sure make one feel welcome..i thought groups were to try bring people together. I MADE A MISTAKE!

Reply to
elleandelle

There is no moderator. We are all (supposedly) adults and therefore able to police ourselves according to the Usenet guidelines without beating each other up or posting unwanted advertising in inappropriate NGs. :)

L
Reply to
Batik Freak

yes but a first time user wouldnt know about the 'rules' - mistakes can be made and boy what a hard price to pay..

This was the first time i ventured to a groups site and what a mistake...

good luck to you all..hope you are happy now you have got my site disabled.

Reply to
elleandelle

Why not? It's not *our* fault that *YOU* couldn't be bothered to find out what the rules are. You just assumed that there were no rules, and when you found out that *YOU* were wrong, it's someone else's fault.

Ignorance of the rules is no excuse.

Sheesh. Into the bit-bucket with you. I don't need to deal with spoiled brats....

-- Jenn Ridley : snipped-for-privacy@chartermi.net

Reply to
Jenn Ridley

You could have asked first. For example, "Is it OK to post an ad here?"

And, as for your site being removed, you need to complain to your ISP, not us. Maybe if you promise them you will follow the rules next time they will be generous.

-------------- You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough.=20

--Mae West=20

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Reply to
IMS

I believe there is an explanation somewhere on news.newusers.questions

-- look for a post that starts "TIP".

Joy Beeson

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Joy Beeson

Hey IMS, how many times does Elle have to apologize before you stop pounding on her?? By now we all know ads are your hot button, and sure to get a knee-jerk tsk tsk or worse from you, along with a load of shame and blame. Elle is right in assessing many of this group as "tough ladies", which is unfortunately taken as a compliment. Why don't you take the same amount of effort reducing at all the non-ad non-sewing flotsam floating in here instead of the occasional sewing-related ad which wanders in the wrong door into your domain? It can be done with a little grace and charity, too. JPBill

Reply to
WB

My replies were polite. There is nothing wrong with posting reminders to people who post ads. Besides, I was NOT the only one, if you look at the replies, several people 'got in ' ahead of me. So I must ask, why are you 'pounding' on me?=20

Anyone who doesn't know or if a first time poster should read the newsgroup rules....the appropriate thing to do is ask members if posting an ad is acceptable....before actually posting it.

And,my replies were NOT pounding. Good grief, some people certainly have problems with replies that are not all touchy-feely.

To answer your last question I have a LOT of killfiles on my email to weed out the 'crap' BEFORE it gets to the inbox. So, I don't see most of it thank goodness. When I do see it, though, I respond.

And, look at the replies. Ads are not only 'my' hot button.

-------------- You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough.=20

--Mae West=20

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Reply to
IMS

Thanks hun...at least someone here is human...i just hope that because of all this by site doesnt get shut down because there are many crafters depending on me - i guess being no for profit can kill you in the end :(

Reply to
elleandelle

I thought you said it DID get shut down. Make up your mind.

Reply to
small change

Being "no for profit" isn't what'll kill you, it's the general cluelessness. You barged into a discussion group with an ad, then whined voceriferously when challenged. More dangerously, you're also claiming to be a non-profit organization but I see no evidence of your tax-exempt status. Some general information on non-profit status:

Instead of complaining about somebody trying to get you shut down, you ought to pull that site down yourself before you wind up getting reported to the IRS for fraud.

Kathleen

Reply to
Kathleen

If you do not attack spammers, whether ignorant or not, at the first opportunity, it's like giving a ham sandwich to one tramp -- they spread the word around that you have a soft touch and eventually they start coming nonstop.

That, of course, does not mean that you have to be rude in doing so.

Sometimes people will continue spamming, whether ignorant or not, until it becomes not worth their while to do so. Sometimes people will also claim to be ignorant as a smokescreen to try to get away with it. In any case, writing the spammer first and then the spammer's ISP and giving their ISP the chance to educate them is the best solution in the long run

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Melinda Meahan - take out TRAS

Well, hopefully you learned not to do that again, and if so, you should be just fine. But for those who don't learn not to do that again, then their web host or ISP will be justified in shutting them down.

You should see some of the newsgroups, mailing lists, and discussion forums that are so cluttered with spam that they are totally useless, then you would understand why people get so unhappy about spam.

(If you didn't know, spam is an unwanted commercial solicitati> Thanks hun...at least someone here is human...i just hope that because

Reply to
Melinda Meahan - take out TRAS

Well, let me offer the following in the spirit of education

(a) whether they suffer or not depends on what your site was about (not interested in knowing what it's about; thanks, but there are a large number of places that specialize in pirating commercial craft and sewing patterns, and personally I think it's no great loss to shut someone down who is depriving a pattern creator of the right to control their intellectual property)

(b) it is *not* malicious to tell someone on usenet to take their advertising off a non-advertising newsgroup, and it is also not malicious to report them to their ISP

(c) Most ISP's will forgive someone for one instance of doing this

(d) "Deleting your post" is not 100% effective, and if there is more than a few hours' lag between posting and "deleting," it's basically ineffective.

(e) If you get advertising revenue from Ad Sense or similar programs, your site is not a "not for profit" site -- it might not be a

*profitable* site, but it is, nonetheless, generating you taxable revenue.
Reply to
Melinda Meahan - take out TRAS

But, this wasn't your "first time"!!!

No, it was NOT your "first time".

Waaaaaaaaa!!!!!

Look, you can gripe all you want about how tough people here are on spammers, but you are full of it! A search of google groups finds:

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first posted this bilge in rec.crafts.marketplace on January 14, 2006. So you actually did start out right, but apparently decided to go with the "spam the crap out of other newsgroups" business model. To see who is to blame for you present difficulty, take a look in the mirror. There is a very good reason for reporting newsgroup spammers to their ISP/registrar: If everyone with an internet connection decided to place just -one- ad a week in discussion newsgroups, no one could find the on-topic messages because of all the spam they would have to wade through.

Go start another business, and do it right this time.

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No Spam

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