If this was your post you say someone complained about:
(snip) We are a professional company offering various brands of sport shoes, such as Nike air Jordan series, SHOX series, AIRMAX series, ADIDAS, PUMA and so on. All the products are in high quality with low price. the shoes with original box packing,hang tags, bar code,material,etc. (snip)
there is absolutely nothing not-for-profit about it, unless you are giving them away. :)
> You first posted this bilge in rec.crafts.marketplace on January 14, 2006. > So you actually did start out right, but apparently decided to go with the > "spam the crap out of other newsgroups" business model. To see who is to > blame for you present difficulty, take a look in the mirror.
It's rare that I hear such rot as this entire subject. Real spam is nearly exclusively sent by people who have the ability to fake their IP address anyway - or are in china etc., where the ISP couldn't care less.
I only come here every now and then, but every time I do, someone is getting slapped in the face over this.
Hundreds of spam messages, or one anal-retentive, control freak... Hard to tell really, which one is more detestable.
Advertising of ANY sort is forbidden by the charter of this group. Have YOU not bothered to read that? We tend to take it in turns to jump on advertisers: keeps them off this group and directs them where they belong.
I find it real intersting that of all the people who replied to Elle - and some in much STRONGER language....you chose to only admonish IMS....why is that? Why are you not harping on everyone else?
Funny, Allan, how you only seem to post when there this exact type of thing comes up. And it's mainly to say yet again that you think Usenet should be a free for all.
Then you should consistently hang around and see the 95% productive discussion that takes place here and consider it in context.
I don't like spam any more than anybody else, but we *all* police this group.
Maybe Kate needs to go get the Feds to come back and deal with the few spammers that come here because we ask them not to come back -- or maybe to deal with you ROTFL.
Sorry, but for a mind reader you are batting .000. People post things on embroidery machines all the time and I have absolutely no interest in that, either.)
Too bad a batting average can't be negative. I never said I *did* know what it was about. I was just speaking of the topic in general.
Well, I guess email.about.com agrees with me:
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> (c) Most ISP's will forgive someone for one instance of doing this > > So because they might get off, that makes it ok!? Weird logic. No, because some people truly are innocent.
You are saying basically the same thing I am. So why is it so important for you to argue with me?
Yes, but she used the words "not for profit," so I was using her terminology back to her.
I have run into quite a few people who do not know enough accounting to understand the difference between a 501(c)(3) organization and running a web site and running a few ads to help recover the cost of running it.
Melinda, give it up, you're arguing with (apparently) a spam apologist. I agree this fellow has little to contribute, and seems more often than not to jump in to defend the occasional spam(mer) in this group. 'Elle' has amply demonstrated her clulessness, as well as her willingness to prevaricate. When provided evidence of her falsehood, she disappears from the group. Too bad her web site is still up.
BEEPBEEPBEEP... BEEPBEEPBEEP aHA! There they are - under that heap of wedding dress fabric!
Scene: Kate's sewing room. Several things have changed since we last visited. There is a smaller bed with no drawers under it, a bit more floor space, the glittery fabric has been replaced by rolls of silk dupion in subtle colours, and there is a heap of quilt batting in the space under the widow.
Kate is sitting at the sewing machine, which is buzzing away at high speed down a long seam in a calico toile. From under the bed comes a muffled thumping noise, followed by the sort of swear you get when a fed eats a dust bunny... Three rolls of fabric thunk to the floor, and Carl clambers out...
Fed: Carl! Wotcha seeing, friend? Is that mad woman still there?
Carl: Dunno, Boss... There a woman that looks a bit like her here, but she's several sizes smaller!
(A copy of the Reader's Digest Complete Guide to Sewing buzzes past Carl's ear and lands neatly on the shelf behind him. Carl looks scared.)
Kate: Cheeky bugger! Look! (She points to a new certificate on the wall, detailing her Weight Watchers success.) Be careful - I'm a lot fitter and faster now!
Carl: Sorry Ma'am. Didn't mean to be rude...
Kate: Well, you managed it anyway. What are you doing here? If you're still after my stash...
Carl: No, ma'am. We're looking for internet spammers and trolls.
Fed: Wot's goin' on out there? I'm getting hot under this lot!
Kate (thumping the mattress): You stay there! One if you in here is quite enough thank you - especially sans invitation! There are no spammers or trolls here, mate; you're barking up the wrong chimney!
Fed (still muffled): But you have recipes for troll on your web site!
Kate: (ominously): Why do you think there are no spammers and trolls in here? Have you tried my troll soup? You should, you know. It might help you get rid of that middle aged spread...
(Muffled cursing from under the bed.)
Carl: Ma'am, we need to ask you about these recipes.
Kate: Why? Have trolls suddenly become an endangered species? (Kate snips a few threads and picks up another bit of fabric. She shakes it out and we can see that this is a HUUUGE pair of Victorian bloomers. Carl turns brick red and looks out the window.)
Fed: We need to control these agents of chaos: they are infiltrating and taking over usenet. We need...
Kate: You need to shut up and get a life! We manage the spammers quite happily ourselves by refusing to buy their tacky wares and reporting them to their ISPs. The trolls are easy: we just grind them up and use them for compost, soup, cat food... Hm... I wonder if we could make a few spare feds into cat food? Or maybe dog food? I think they'd give the alligators in the quilting group indigestion.
Carl (nervously): Alligators?
Kate: Yes; Polly usually feeds them on incompetent medical practitioners, but a fed or two might be a nice change of diet!
Carl: Jiminy! You sewing type wimmin are TOUGH birds!
Kate: Yup! We take no prisoners, stand no nonsense, and feed trolls and spammers to the dust bunnies! It keeps our newsgroups clear of idiots. Well, until you lot pop up, anyway...
(Muffled thumps and cursing is heard from under the bed)
Fed : I don't know about feeding trolls to the dust bunnies, but the ones under here are trying to bite my leg!
Kate (poking the nozzle of the Dyson under the bed): Here! Earn yer keep and get rid of them for me!
Frankly, this discussion has gotten a lot like spam itself. And in the meantime, we are having totally non-related spam posts popping up. Let's cut the lady a break, and move on, shall we?
So, what is everyone sewing these days? I have some wool doubleknit that I'll be making a pair of travel pants (trousers) with, and some boiled wool that I bought to make a jacket. Yes, I do realize summer is coming, but the fabric was on sale! Boiled wool is so pricey, if you can even find it, so when I do see it--and on sale--it becomes mine in a hurry. I also found some nice cotton/Lycra twill on sale, which will become my summer crop pants.
Thank you. Long, long ago, in a land far, far away (like 3 miles up the road!) I used to teach creative writing as part of the syllabus for GCSE English, in my former life as a torturer of 11-18 YO Shakespeare refuzniks. They say that those that can, do: those that can't, teach. Not always the case! :) Now I teach sewing more than English Lit or creative writing, but the skills never entirely vanish. Now and again it's fun to sharpen the pen rather than the scissors.
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