I open those out of curiosity. How am I going to learn anything until I learn the language?
Use to hear objections about that from the kids at school. "How come we have to learn these big words?" pertaining to biological vocabulary was as common a question as "Is this going to be on the test?"
Answer to both was the same - life is cumulative. Takes everything you know to learn what you need.
Extremely useful. I still don't have a clue. I don't know what the reference to "Smithsonian collection" refers to. Or Basic Language. Or Leif's. Does the Smithsonian collect all acronyms used by this group?
Google gave me these "LEGO Digital Designer" "Learning Difficulties and Disabilities" "Unix ldd command" .
How much time and energy do I have to solve puzzles? Is that what I am here for?
I think acronyms should be defined in the post the first time they are used. So what if they have already been defined in previous posts. I haven't read those nor will I.
At work I was talking with a 911 provider about maps. She kept referring to CAD. Now CAD has a very clear meaning to me. Computer Aided Drafting. I got confused as she talked because it wasn't making sense. Eventually I had to ask her to spell out her meaning of CAD. Computer Aided Dispatch. I "had" to learn her jargon. Do I have to do it at home engaging in my fun activities as well? How much is one brain supposed to hold?
My own field uses jargon. I learned it. Jargon isolates you from the general public and creates a special group. News groups are a public forum intended to share information with a wide range of people. Isn't jargon in conflict with its mission?
Want only long time expert news group readers to read your posts then use jargon. Want all new people to be confused, use it a lot. Want to drive off causal visitors? Use it.
That's why it's important to use google to search in this newsgroup.
I did a "what is LDD" on this newsgroup:
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and the FIRST one in the list answered my question.
Heavy Sigh...
Either you learn the terminology by reading and waiting, or you learn how to use the tools of the Internet. I think the second is more useful, which is why my first response to this thread told readers to use google to search this newsgroup for acronyms used here.
Excellent and clear. I have a full time job. At home I spend my hours pushing wood around. I am never going to be good at computers or search engines because my life is spent in the shop. I typed LDD into Google. I see what you typed in. I am never going to learn that. Computers and search engines are not tools I need to butcher wood.
If the language used is clear then nothing has to be explained and no one's time is wasted.
You have offered two choices. There are additional choices such as leave.
How long would it take for a wood butcher to learn to use the tools of the internet? How many hours sitting in front of a computer? Who would teach him?
I was a brief visitor. Silly of me. I'll return as soon as I learn Internet Tools. Then I will use them to translate the posts into English. I look forward to learning many new acronyms. I am excited about my future participation. Learning to use the Internet properly has been my life goal.
OTOH, if they type something like "Finishing after using liquid dishwashing detergent" the subject line may be too long to see in some browsers... (besides the extra letters/words typed take away from time making shavings)
I've always felt that when you lose interest in learning, you lose interest in living... sort of like "enlightenment enables you to see how much you still have to learn"?
"mac davis" wrote: (clip) sort of like "enlightenment enables you to see how much you still have to learn"? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ So--as you get older, more experienced and more informed, you perception is that you are constantly becoming more ignorant. You arrive at the end of life totally frustrated, or senile.
I think it's more like shorthand - a quick way to communicate and cuts down on typing. It's a lot easier to use CMS for compound miter saw and SCMS for sliding compound miter saw. BLO is quicker than typing boiled linseed oil.
Imagine what this place would be like if you had to provide the definition/ description of many of the unique terms in lathe turning - two spur, four spur or stebb center (sp?), live center, cup center etc..
In most cases, the person who uses an acronym will provide its meaning if asked - we are all trying to communicate here (well, like any newsgroup, there are exceptions). It's not illegal to ask for an explanation when there's something you don't understand.
Ah yes, the ignorance = bliss approach. Saw a lot of that, and not just in the kids. You have to know enough to know that you know too little. Of course, when you don't you can be confident in the rightness of your opinions.
"George" wrote: (clip) You have to know enough to know that you know too little. Of course, when you don't you can be confident in the rightness of your opinions. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Those are the people I hate to talk to. My response to them: "How can you know so much, when no one can tell you anything?"
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