I dedcided to spend my afternoon beading. I bought some pretty, pretty Swarovskis at the Ft Washington show. Keith was headed out to get groceries so he came over to kiss me goodbye. As usual, he was followed by his little green-eyed jealous shadow. Topaz just looooooooooooves him!
We has kidding about Topaz wanting a pretty baeded color. I said the Blue Capri ABs would look lovely against her red fur but "Do you know how much it would cost to make her a collar?"
He replies, "About four or five dollars?"
Yeah, right, if I used plastic beads and sewing thread! He really has no clue how much I spend on beads. Let's keep it that way. ;-)
On Sun, 2 May 2004 15:18:29 -0400, JL Paules wrote (in message ):
C'mon, if you bought your Swarovsk(ooops), Austrian Faceted Crystals in bulk, you'd save enough money that Topaz collar would be practically free. And, you'd have all those "free" leftover beads for other projects.
vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from Kathy N-V :
]C'mon, if you bought your Swarovsk(ooops), Austrian Faceted Crystals in bulk, ]you'd save enough money that Topaz collar would be practically free. And, ]you'd have all those "free" leftover beads for other projects. ] ]that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
**snort** point!
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I am fully aware of what they want - and I know what I want. Swarovski is only asking if you sell Swarovski components, you be authorized to use their name. I really don't think that's so bad. All tissues aren't Kleenex or Puffs. And believe me, I want Puffs. ;-)
We've gone round and around here about what Swarovski wants. Apparently they also insist that any components purchased as Swarovski not be listed in the list of components as Swarovski. Though I think Kathy was simply making a joke.
Actually, I am the one who started all of this. I am working on a website for a friend who has a bead shop and she sells Swarovskis (the real thing). I am well aware of branding policies so I contacted Swarovski about using their name and logo. The logo is out because it's for finished items only. The name can be used with their approval but they want to see the site first. I don't think that's sucha a bad thing. They also need you to supply them with the name of your vendor. We all know that there are places selling Czech crystals as Swarovskis. They just want to protect their name.
I knew that Kathy was teasing me. That's cool - but I still want the real thing. ;-)
On Mon, 3 May 2004 14:19:07 -0400, Christina Peterson wrote (in message ):
Yep. It was a joke. After all the go rounds we've had about using the name, I decided to almost but not quite use the preferred term of "Austrian Faceted Crystals."
Having been in Austria, and having some Austrian relatives, the whole issue makes me laugh. If I had to generalize, I'd say that whole country is full of people who need a good laugh, and have trouble walking with that pole up their butts. Some Austrians make the most snooty German look like a long haired, pot smoking, hippy tree hugger who lives in an old bus and believes in "free love."
These are people that have laws about walking the "wrong way" down a sidewalk, and actually enforce them. There are also laws determining when you can mow your lawn, against resting your feet on a seating surface, with or without shoes, and chastize you for hanging out your laundry "the wrong way." If you've seen the "Sound of Music," and have been to Austria, you'll quickly realize that Captain Von Trapp wasn't a charicature.
I love the crystals, am not wild about the country, and will respect the Swarovski family's insistence on calling their beads by whatever name they wish. (BTW, I've seen some Czech leaded crystal that makes Austrian crystal look dingy. Heaven help the S. company when the Czechs finally get their act together and start to export it)
vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from Kathy N-V :
]Heaven help the S. company when the Czechs finally get their act ]together and start to export it
ooooooooooh! can't wait!
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]I'm with you and waiting for someone else to give them a run for their ]money.
count me in.
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I've been seeing packs of "Austrian Crystals" in the craft stores lately - and it's making me wonder if they are Swarovskis or not. The craft stores are carrying branded Swarovski's as well. Since these are in little sealed packages I can't feel/hold them. Makes me wonder though.
On Tue, 11 May 2004 19:10:13 -0400, KDK wrote (in message ):
Probably not. Since I see stuff that is obviously plastic passed off as Turquoise, and Hematine is called a "rare gemstone," I'd think that anything I couldn't obviously identify as suspect.
There are vendors I trust - a big craft chain isn't one of them. I'm sure they have lawyers that are able to get "crystals that rode in a truck through Austria on the way to the airport" defined as Austrian Crystals. Kinda like "Italian Ice" or "Bavarian Creme."
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