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You're completely right. There is another issue, too... the fact that by importing food into famine areas, we are making the problem worse. Why? Because, as heartless as this may sound, the population will always increase to meet the food supply, and we have, by "helping", created a population in many areas that outstrips the area's ability to produce food by several times... ensuring that any interruption in the supply of "relief" food will result in the agonizing deaths by starvation of many more people than had we never intervened in the first place. A horrible catch-22, isn't it? Do not intervene, and they will starve. Do intervene, and their population will grow, ensuring even greater suffering and the impossibility of independence from relief supplies.

-Kalera

Su/Cutworks wrote:

It gives you the worst mental image, doesn't it? LOL!

My favorite is "Partially defatted pork fatty tissues".

-Kalera

T> While I was happily munching away on a Slim Jim at AGI last week,

You are correct, of course. The present administration's ban on meaningful birth control in Third World countries is an entirely different rant, and territory into which I do not want to tread.

Meanwhile, what makes you think that the only people who are starving are in Sub-Saharan Africa? Millions of people in the most over-fed country in the world go to bed hungry every night, maybe some of your neighbors. It's not because there is no food, and no way to produce it, but because they simply can't afford it. If there were some way to reduce the waste and turn it into lower food prices so that everyone could afford to eat nutrious food, why would anyone not want to do that?

*That* is the crime. Before you throw up your hands and say there is no way to save the world, look to see what you can do in your own back yard.

Think globally -- Act locally

Arondelle

Yes, definitely crispy with mustard and relish!

Ray

starlia wrote:

This I might have to try........HHHHMMMMMM.......

Ray

Carla wrote:

I think I just messed myself laughing.......(Su, you made me do it again!)

Ray

Su/Cutworks wrote:

Yup! Just stole me another recipe. Sounds good.

Ray

Kaytee wrote:

OOPS! forgot the onions.

Ray

Ray DeVous wrote:

Didn't you enjoy it? *innocent smile*

I'd warn people but I would think that by now everyone should know that it's dangerous to read my messages.

-Su

Celery salt is very, very good too. yum x 2

I grew up near the stock yards in Chicago. I've seen some things and if that didn't put me off my feed then probably nothing will.

You make and I'll eat it.

It's not just the taste and texture either. They don't give heartburn. To me, it's just not worth it to buy franks of lesser quality.

Tina

Yep. As someone who often went hungry as a child, I am all too aware of the problem here at home. Why we let this happen is beyond me. For that matter, if we still had government surplus food stores, the problem of the hungry, working poor could be greatly mitigated.

-Kalera

Ar> You are correct, of course. The present administration's ban on

A friend of my mother's was on a "govt. food program" way back before food stamps. She said a whole lot of the stuff was disgusting-- her dog wouldn't even eat it. She used the powdered milk for milk baths and to feed her pumpkin plants-- nobody would drink it, even after she strained the undissolved lumps out. The processed cheese was usually just tossed-- didn't even work as mouse-trap bait. The dried eggs got some use in baking, and the flour was OK, but the macaroni and rice were so "fortified" that they didn't cook up right, and tasted weird, no matter how much stuff you put on top of them. Kaytee "Simplexities" on

No way!...my grandma in Iowa got that cheese, and it was GREAT!! Made the BEST grilled cheese sandwiches.

And, sorry to say, Powdered milk is really good for adding dairy protein to all kinds of baked goods. Sounds like your mom's friend was a little uncreative!

The Blessed Fiddy, Patroness Saint of the Disorganized LC in Sunny So Cal Personality Development Specialist (Full-Time Mom!)

I sometimes have to avail myself of the local church food pantry which takes part in the government surplus food program. I find that the surplus food is every bit as good as the commercial donations -- and sometimes better. I suspect that the surplus food, mostly in cans, comes from commercial production and is re-labeled.

I don't drink milk, but I do use the powdered milk for cooking or putting in coffee. The dried fruit is delightful. Processed cheese isn't real food to begin with. We even got ground bison (buffalo) once. About the only thing I've found objectionable was the canned salmon, but since I don't ever buy canned salmon I wouldn't be able to make a comparison.

The non-canned donations from the local grocery stores, however, are usually out-dated and are frequently stale. I won't even talk about the "fresh" vegetables.

All in all, the food pantry can be a life saver. It cannot, however, serve that many people, since it's operated almost entirely on voluntary donations, and visits are limited to once a month. Some people are too embarrassed to go there. Eliminating waste in food production and lowering the cost of food is still a better way to go.

Arondelle

Speaking of community food share organizations, I have to brag. My dd (9 yo) is big on doing charity work. It's a jewish value called "tzedakah". She does every other birthday party like this:

she invites EVERYONE she knows, and they are asked to bring some charitable donation. One year, when she was 7, she donated over 350lbs of canned foods to the local foodshare.

Last year, the local humane league picked up two pickup trucks full of donations for the shelter. You should have seen the people at the skating rink (where the party was) looking at the stuff going in and out! LOL...

giving to others is a good thing, martha.

The Blessed Fiddy, Patroness Saint of the Disorganized LC in Sunny So Cal Personality Development Specialist (Full-Time Mom!)

On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 13:50:47 -0400, LC aka Fiddy wrote (in message ):

What a wonderful idea! Manda already grocery shops for the food pantry, but this sounds like something she would love to do. I'll definitely run this by her.

BTW, I just got her birthday request: she wants to go to Spain with her language class. Teacher mentioned it on the first day, and said it's only for advanced students. I'm confused because she takes Latin, not Spanish, but if the trip is reasonably priced, I'm all for it.

What a great kid. You're doing a Good Job.

Kathy N-V

thanks. at the very least, I'm dancing as fast as I can! LOL

The Blessed Fiddy, Patroness Saint of the Disorganized LC in Sunny So Cal Personality Development Specialist (Full-Time Mom!)