I don't usually get so perturbed...

but these people disgust me:

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I'm sorry. I just had to say something. It's not like this is a one-time thing, or I wouldn't be so sickened by them. Just a glance through their site reveals that. What's worst, for me, is that I really used to respect their skills. But what use are technical skills if you have neither creativity nor ethics? I hate plagiarists.

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Kalera

No, but there's a new pendant called 'What goes around comes around'. The jester and seahorse are gone.

-Su

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Su

It's really a shame. I've heard rants about them before. They obviously do have the technicla skills, wonder why they don't just open the mind a bit and let their own creative muse out.

LOL, "what goes around comes around" how aptly named :D

Teresa

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LavenderCreek

I agree entirely, Teresa. There are only so many ways to melt glass but it's the creative genius that is what counts and how that controls what you do with the glass. Being inspired by art to make your own art is wonderful but.... well....

I got a laugh out of the name too.

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Su

Eh, whatchagonnado? Send me your address, that's what! LOL! Smooch to you. Love, Lori

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This site may help you see everything.

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Kalera

it would not let me in so i cant judge V

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Vicky

One of these days those people will get it. I used to really like their beads as well, until I found out they were copying people and admitting to it proudly. It's sad.

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Kandice Seeber

Okay, that rocks! Thank you!

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Kandice Seeber

Seahorse is here:

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Jesus! That's awful!

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Kandice Seeber

Kalera, you and I both know the difference is a mile wide but I was told by at least one person that they would never buy from me because I openly admitted that I learned to do certain things or attempted to learn how to do something by looking at someone else's work and trying to replicate it. I also admitted that I really admired the work of certain lampworkers so much so that I copied a design, (including colours I thought were used because there was a colour reaction involved) in order to learn a technique (didn't know that dots could make a center band go zig-zag) and to have earrings in the same colours I thought they'd used. I didn't sell what I made, I made earrings for myself. In fact, I specifically attempted the technique in a size that would make earrings for myself. I find earring size a good testing ground for things that you may eventually want to scale up.

I freely admit when I have been inspired by other people's work. I always credit my inspirations. If I used something specifically from Smircich, I say so. If I used something from one of Corina's Spotlights, I say so. I am not trying to steal designs, I am trying to become a better lampworker. I think part of becoming a better lampworker is trying to figure out techniques you admire in other's work.

I am sorry to harp on this topic but I was really really hurt and frustrated by things people said to me the last time I was stupid enough to get involved in a thread like this. It still really bugs me. Bigtime. I didn't even take a picture of the dog I did for my sister because I was afraid that someone might see it someday and put me through that whole ordeal again.

You were very kind and generous with your comments last time I was in a thread like this and again, I thank you.

- Sandy

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Bacchae

I have a whole TRAY of beads I made in classes, following my insteructor's directions. That's how we learn. I remember the person who said they would never buy from you, and you know what? I think they didn't read through thoroughly enough to understand what you meant when you said you copy to learn.

Everybody copies to learn! From handwriting to glassworking, that's the primary means we have of learning technique.

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Kalera

What Kalera said!!!! Some customers are NOT worth having!

Hugs, Sandy, you're doing great!

KarenS

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Karen Sherwood

at least one person that they would never buy from me because I openly admitted that I learned to do certain things or attempted to learn how to do something by looking at someone else's work and trying to replicate it. ~~~~~~~~~~ That hurts, and it isn't great for business......but you don't need people like that. Your work is good enough. That person doesn't see the line, they just have a knee-jerk reaction. They can't think for themselves -- they parrot what others have said to them without thinking the grey shadings through. To this sort of person, the world is black and white.

Any artist in business has this sort of thing happen to them. You have to learn to let it roll away and forget it -- and learn from it too. Maybe not be so "out" about learning from others in public situations? Be a little more circumspect in who you share insider info with? Unfortunately, it can be a necessity to not be so open these paranoid days, with people misreading what is, and isn't, ethical.

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credit my inspirations. If I used something specifically from Smircich, I say so. If I used something from one of Corina's Spotlights, I say so. I am not trying to steal designs, I am trying to become a better lampworker. I think part of becoming a better lampworker is trying to figure out techniques you admire in other's work. ~~~~~~~~~~~ You need ME at your side to straighten those fools out! (Kind of like traveling around with Mr.T)

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